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Certification --> Electronics, PLC's, et cetera . . .

ScopeScope Posts: 417
edited 2010-04-20 13:17 in General Discussion
Can anyone recommend a pathway for 'credible' certification for electronics, PLC's or similar?

Where would one begin? Would industry knowledgeable peers be impressed?

And ya, I know the best education is experience. [noparse]:)[/noparse]

Thanks

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  • PJAllenPJAllen Banned Posts: 5,065
    edited 2010-04-19 22:55
    The most expensive education is experience.

    If you're looking for certification, look into CETs at www.iscet.org
  • mctriviamctrivia Posts: 3,772
    edited 2010-04-19 23:04
    I have a CET. In Canada at least it is pretty useless. Hense my working as an Electrician. I make twice the money and it is easier to find work.

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  • sam_sam_samsam_sam_sam Posts: 2,286
    edited 2010-04-19 23:57
    Scope

    Where do you live

    Here in Jacksonville· FL

    There is a Community Collage here that has a Industrial Electrical·and Instrumentation Program

    ·Which·I have taken

    For me it was worth the time spend learning what this program of study had to offer

    In this program of study cover the following and more it is a two year program

    PLC = Programing / wiring them / and how to use them

    VFD Drive = Motor Speed Controller / Programing / wiring them / and how to use them

    Motor Controls / how to wire up AC Motor / over load

    DDC Controls Controlling the outside world with a computer·/ Programing / setting up parameters

    Industrial Robots / DDC Controls

    Electric AC / DC

    Instrumentation fundamentals





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  • sam_sam_samsam_sam_sam Posts: 2,286
    edited 2010-04-20 00:47
    Here is why I say it was worth the time spend

    The last job that I had which I just got layoff from

    They have a Metal Break Press which came from another Plant which had some problem

    One >>>>··Every time you would turn the power off to this machine it would loose it working·parameters

    Two·>>>> because of this the machine could not be used this way

    The Plant where it came from they only knew only some of the working ·parameters but not all of them

    The manual only contain the general··parameters

    The company that made the machine could only·these general··parameters

    There was a company that fix allot of there machine

    ·But they said it would cost· $10,000 to put a new controller in this machine because of how old this machine

    I was the one who got this machine working again·



    Loosing the parameters was because it has Battery Back up C mos Chip which was Bad which was replaced

    Here is where the·· ·Industrial Robots / DDC Controls course of study came in to play ......>>>>>>>>

    Now getting the right·parameters for the X and Y axis which have encoder on each

    You had to know how an encoder work which really helped in respect of how many pluses per inch

    You had to keep look at manual for what each error is and what it meant and there was allot of them

    It took me three day to get all of the right·parameters put in

    There was a joke that was made after the first day

    The person who was in charged of· this project said this after·......>>>>> I said ....>>>· ·I do not know how long this is going to take

    and maybe you need to call the company that work on the other machines

    He tell me this· AS long as the amount of time in wages dose not·go over $10,000 I do not care how long it take just see if you can get it to work because all this company want to do is sell us a new Controller they only gave me $2000 to work with and my· @ss·in on the line Because the BIG BOSS is after me about this machine·work again·



    ·The only cost of this machine·was the·cost of the tranport to this plant from the other plant


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  • ScopeScope Posts: 417
    edited 2010-04-20 04:56
    Thanks folks.

    Sam, I live in Atlanta. I worked once at the Chevron terminal in Jacksonville, next to the large shipping port.

    Here's what I want to accomplish: If possible/feasible, I need to devise a more efficient means of learning the essential robotics stuff.

    It seems like I have "holes" in my foundation skills: I still find it challenging to read and understand simple circuit schematics. I find myself having to go over and over too many times PWM, decay, programming basics, and so forth. I have a large list of unknowns - I plug stuff in and it works, but I'm fuzzy about what that thing does, why, and so forth. Do I stop and research or move on to the anticipation of my finished project?

    Sometimes I feel like I'm missing a lot of stuff but I don't know where I should go back to begin. Like many others, I have a demanding job, many family activities, and "basic life requirements." It's often challenging to devote as much time to robotics as I'd like to. I must determine how I can get from "A" to "B" as efficiently as possible.

    "A" is where I am now - I jumped into robotics with almost zero experience reading electronic diagrams. Holding them in my hand, I couldn't even identify any of the most basic electronic components. I'm much better now - I'd classify myself as "proficient with several introductory robotic concepts."

    "B" is my goal: to gain the experience and understanding which enables me to create useful robotic projects more efficiently (ya, rather vague).

    In a month I'll be off for two months. I want to make the most of those two months by mastering as many of the essential basics as necessary and becoming somewhat proficient in several intermediate areas. And, I know, the practice of robotics is very diverse and may, at times, employ a little "knowledge of everything" while usually requiring large doses of essential ingredients. I want to obtain those missing, essential ingredients most efficiently. And one essential thing I've learned thus far: this stuff takes time to really practice and THEN the understanding takes place - there is no substitute for "doing it" (versus reading about it, watching videos, et cetera).

    Worse case scenario is that without a more efficient plan I won't learn as much as quickly - no big deal, really. I've learned I also am learning much faster right now because I am working on a project that I plan on entering in the 2010 Parallax RF contest. I guess there's just no "fast track" because there is so much to learn, so much required in order to obtain my goal.

    Although I may express a little frustration, I am very happy to be on the path, even if I'm not "doing it efficiently" I am still able to experience great satisfaction with the projects I've done thus far. Also, I hope my comments are not taken in a derogatory manner because I believe the WAM & Boe-Bot series are phenomenal, truly awesome resources.

    Thanks again,

    Scope
  • Kevin WoodKevin Wood Posts: 1,266
    edited 2010-04-20 07:08
    Scope, have you tried keeping a journal? Maybe making a journal with your own notes & explanations will help you keep it fresh in the long run. You can use any old journal, or get fancy and use a Maker's Notebook from the Maker Shed. It has some really good charts & whatnot (color codes, etc.) in the back for reference.

    Also, if you've never looked at it, I recommend a book called something like Practical Electronics for Inventors by Paul Scherz. It's written from more of a practical standpoint for, well, inventors as opposed to engineers. So most sections are fairly short and easy to digest, while still being useful.

    If you want to learn the stuff that sam mentioned, you might also want to consider (if you're young and looking for a career change) an apprenticeship as an industrial/commercial electrician. They're the ones who typically deal with those subjects. There are also companies out there that build custom machinery, and working in one for a while would also be a way to gain some skills & experience.
  • ScopeScope Posts: 417
    edited 2010-04-20 13:17
    Thank you Kevin

    I'm 51 and in search of a robotics-related career that I can keep doing until the day I die.

    I think of myself as "creative" but I can't imagine ever getting bored with robotics and we all know there will always be something new & exciting to learn, to do, fun, rewarding, challenging activities are unlimited . . . or so, it seems to me.

    Thanks everyone for the comments & suggestions
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