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  • ScopeScope Posts: 417
    edited 2010-05-15 16:44
    Working on Prototype 03. Prototypes 01 & 02 didn't turn out very good. confused.gif

    Hopefully, this one will be a little better. I still haven't decided whether or not to use RF to connect the Stamp on the tractor to the Propeller on the trailer.

    The plastic downspout measures ~3.15 x ~2.33 (outside dim's)

    And - this is a sketch for a prototype - the final system is planed to deploy media onto a much larger, ~144 square foot area. The tractor is a Traxxas E-Maxx (dimensions are correct but details have been omitted on sketch).

    Post Edited (Scope) : 5/15/2010 4:51:23 PM GMT
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  • Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi)Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi) Posts: 23,514
    edited 2010-05-15 17:18
    I may be misunderstanding your drawing, but won't there be a "blind spot" where the nozzle crosses over the bottom rail?

    -Phil
  • ScopeScope Posts: 417
    edited 2010-05-15 19:33
    Yes, the printer skips a gap which is about 3" wide.

    I can live with that now because the intent is to provide a matrix of media deployment (probably in the form of a burst of paint, for example) using a 3" x 3" grid. I realize this resolution isn't very "close" but I plan on increasing the resolution after the working prototype is functional. This could incorporate a tractor guide that was much narrower, perhaps less than an inch, if necessary, or possibly even using another tractor guiding technique.

    Actually, I always planned on coming back and manually "connecting the dots" that are placed using the PLP. This order of operation is a carry over from when my students used to create the large graphics at the center of the football field. We placed spray dots using 2 radii which were calculated using CAD software. It worked really well but was time consuming. The amount of paint used for a really large graphic, similar to one used at the center of a football field, for example, requires lots of paint and numerous subsequent touch-ups during the season when the field is in use (due to obvious wear and tear, grass being trimmed, et cetera). In this situation, and based on my previous experience, I believe the process will involve the following:

    Step 1 --> Layout out the dots using the PLP
    Step 2 --> Manually "connecting the dots" with spray painted lines
    Step 3 --> Manually filling in the areas with spray paint

    Topping my design criteria is "simple - functional - inexpensive," so, I'm not thinking precision, complex, expensive at the moment.

    Post Edited (Scope) : 5/15/2010 9:19:02 PM GMT
  • ScopeScope Posts: 417
    edited 2010-05-16 01:44
    I can make the Boe-Bot stop at each mark, then keep going - no problem.

    But how do I make it stop at mark #2, #7, #11, & #12? I've tried several options - nothing works. [noparse]:([/noparse]

    Mega-thanks! [noparse]:)[/noparse]


    ' {$STAMP BS2}
    ' {$PBASIC 2.5}
    
    counter VAR Word
    time VAR Word
    poscounter VAR Word
    poscounter = 0
    
    DO
      HIGH 10
      RCTIME 10, 1, time
      IF time > 90 THEN     ' QTI sees line (60 works well in "good light")
        GOSUB Go_Stop
      ELSE
        GOSUB Go_Forward
      ENDIF
      DEBUG CLS, ? time
      PAUSE 100
    LOOP
    
    Go_Forward:
      PULSOUT 12, 740
      PULSOUT 13, 760
      PAUSE 50
      RETURN
    
    Go_Stop:
      PULSOUT 12, 750
      PULSOUT 13, 750
      FREQOUT 4, 200, 3500
      FOR counter = 1 TO 5
        PULSOUT 12, 740
        PULSOUT 13, 760
        PAUSE 100
      NEXT
      RETURN
    



    th_scope_plp_010_B.jpg
  • ScopeScope Posts: 417
    edited 2010-05-16 17:52
    So much simpler . . . the spool will actually have a follower (not shown) with the code to accurately measure the cable. This way, it won't matter what diameter the cable is wrapped when it gets spooled. Also, there will be a tensioner so the spool of cable won't unwind when the spool is stopped for indexing. This method also resolves the "blind spot" for the "printer" (this design eliminates the center beam that provided indexing marks and steering alignment).

    Post Edited (Scope) : 5/16/2010 5:57:40 PM GMT
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  • Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi)Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi) Posts: 23,514
    edited 2010-05-16 20:02
    Your illustrations are really neat! Are they hand-drawn, or do you have a program that makes them look that way?

    -Phil
  • ScopeScope Posts: 417
    edited 2010-05-16 20:48
    Thanks!

    Google SketchUp - totally free.

    I lost a zillion of my drawings . . . found this one, not very good quality but you can see the software will allow anyone to create anything - technical, artistic, or both.

    Enjoy!
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  • ercoerco Posts: 20,256
    edited 2010-05-17 02:30
    Scope: I thought of your project when I saw this stuff on Ebay last week: http://cgi.ebay.com/INSTANT-LAWN-REPAIR-LAWNS-PLANTS-GET-GREEN-/120567490017?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Fertilizer_Soil_Amendments&hash=item1c1261e5e1

    It's some kind of aerosol·green paint & fertilizer all in one; next best thing to·aerosol cheese!

    I like your project. It reminds me a bit·of the Hektor robot, which painted on walls using·a·can of spray paint. See ·http://www.hektor.ch/Videos/Landscape.mov/

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  • WhitWhit Posts: 4,191
    edited 2010-05-21 01:19
    Scope said...
    Ok, I'll spill the beans "PLP" = Project Lawn Printer...

    Thanks for Whit not telling anyone (ha).
    A priest who tells secrets is not much of a priest. turn.gif

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    "We keep moving forward, opening new doors, and doing new things, because we're curious and curiosity keeps leading us down new paths." - Walt Disney
  • ScopeScope Posts: 417
    edited 2010-05-28 21:00
    . . .
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  • ScopeScope Posts: 417
    edited 2010-05-29 13:49
  • ScopeScope Posts: 417
    edited 2010-05-29 14:21
    . . . if anyone wants to contribute to this project, please feel welcome to do so. Specifically, I could use some guidance in creating the following program. I can create a database of points that will be plotted - but getting the machine operable using the right code is . . . frankly, somewhat overwhelming. The Stamp will be handling the WINCH and the Propeller will be accomplishing the PLOTTER. I know this is fairly vague - sorry. I'm flying by the seat of my pants on this one. Any help is most appreciated - even encouragement is accepted. [noparse];)[/noparse]

    Thanks,

    Scope
    [noparse]:)[/noparse]


    PLP Program
    
    Create plotting points
    Send program to winch
    Start program
    
    ----------------------------------
        Communicate w/Printer
    ----------------------------------
    Communicate w/Printer
        Is printer ready?
            Yes
                Continue
            No
                Terminate program
    ----------------------------------
        Move to Y Position
    ----------------------------------
    Is a Y position available?
        Yes
            Move to Y position
            Send x position information to printer
            Send “Deploy Material” to printer
            Receive “Message Completed” from printer?
                Yes
                    Go to “Move to Y Position”
                No
                    Wait for message from printer
        No
            Terminate program
    ----------------------------------
        Deploy Material
    ----------------------------------
    Move to point on X axis where media is deployed
        Deploy media
    Is another point on x axis?
        Yes
            Go to “Deploy Material”
        No
            Move to end of boom
            Send completion message to Winch
    
    
    
  • ScopeScope Posts: 417
    edited 2010-05-29 15:54
    . . . more parts arrived . . . and just in time . . .
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  • ScopeScope Posts: 417
    edited 2010-05-31 15:27
    , , , for some unexplained reason, I keep plodding ahead, convinced I have a remote chance of finishing this project before the deadline . . . this is before prototype 04 is even finished . . . oh well, I'm still really enjoying the project so . . . all is not lost, right?
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  • ScopeScope Posts: 417
    edited 2010-06-01 19:02
    Well . . . I didn't complete this on time but I'm going to continue working on it until it's completed.

    Thanks for the help and encouragement thus far.

    I'll update the project as it progresses . . . the final actual plotting area measures 2000mm square - it's big. Of course, it breaks down for easy transport - working out all the bugs is . . . oh well, ya'll know . . . fun, of course . . .
  • Tony B.Tony B. Posts: 356
    edited 2010-06-01 21:05
    Scope,

    Sorry you didn't make the deadline, but I am glad to read you plan to complete it. I don't know which state you live in beacause it sure would be nice to come over and see it, encourage you and learn with you along the way.

    I've made some good headway on my Propeller robots and hope to use the good summer weather for outdoors testing.

    So keep up the good work and enjoy the journey!!!!!!!!

    Tony
  • ScopeScope Posts: 417
    edited 2010-06-01 23:04
    Thanks Tony - I live in Georgia, just outside Atlanta (the place Sherman burned).

    The following diagram probably doesn't make much sense but I'm using all the components "on hand" and I'm a very visual person, so, graphics like this one help me get organized mentally so I at least have a chance of proceeding in a deliberate, efficient manner.
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  • Tony B.Tony B. Posts: 356
    edited 2010-06-02 02:39
    Scope,

    I live in Illinois.· So I guess I won't be stopping by anytime soon.

    Like the diagram.· I'm always drawing and making sketches to get the old creative jucies flowing.· Some of my best work is on napkins.tongue.gif

    Tony
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