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New Parallax product: 30W DIY Solar Panel Kit

Ken GraceyKen Gracey Posts: 7,401
edited 2010-03-11 23:24 in General Discussion
Hey all,

Today we're launching a really neat product - a build-your-own 30W Solar Panel Kit. The release includes nice documentation and videos. A number of folks around the office contributed lots of effort to this project, including Matt Gilliland (Microcontroller Application Cookbook author and product designer), Stephanie Lindsay (editing), Jessica Uelman (videos), Rich Allred (photography), Dave Andreae (first article review), Lauren and Jen (marketing), etc. If they had to accept an award there are probably twenty others who deserve credit. We're very pleased with the quality of the kit, too. No expense was spared to make this a good experience (except the expense of a soldering iron and a few hand tools which you need to provide). By the end of today you will see the full release.

We hope you enjoy this product as much as we enjoyed putting it all together.

Sincerely,

Ken Gracey

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  • davejamesdavejames Posts: 4,047
    edited 2010-02-25 17:44
    I noticed in the "Build Your Own..." Part 1, that when the young lady "pre-tabbed" the first cell, the cell appeared to bend slightly due to the tension of the attached tabbing wire. The cell actually "rocks" on the workstation (the piece of wood).

    Was this just my old eyes playing tricks? Or is this an assembly issue that needs to be carefully noted?


    Regards,

    DJ

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    Post Edited (davejames) : 2/25/2010 5:52:17 PM GMT
  • W9GFOW9GFO Posts: 4,010
    edited 2010-02-25 18:20
    davejames said...
    Was this just my old eyes playing tricks? Or is this an assembly issue that needs to be carefully noted?

    She makes note of the "cupping" in the video. I think your eyes are fine. smile.gif

    Rich H

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  • kf4ixmkf4ixm Posts: 529
    edited 2010-02-25 18:39
    These look great Ken! Again, hats off to Parallax!
  • Ken GraceyKen Gracey Posts: 7,401
    edited 2010-02-25 20:53
    Yes, the warping is all part of the assembly process and "Mr. Flux is your friend" as noted in the video.

    Ken Gracey
  • John R.John R. Posts: 1,376
    edited 2010-02-25 23:30
    Does Johny Mac know Jen is moving in on the whole "acting" thing?

    Very nice job on the assembly videos!

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  • Cluso99Cluso99 Posts: 18,069
    edited 2010-02-28 13:26
    Just a note about solar cells because it could be of interest for those going to experiment.

    I have installed solar cells on some catamarans like my own cat (I don't have them yet). Of course, we use much larger and higher power panels, like 2 or 3 210W 24V panels. Lower wattage panels (60-120W) only seem to come in 12V. Now, don't let the 12V fool you. A 12V panel will actually output up to 17.6V. Then a regulator is used to drop the voltage back to 13-14V for charging our boat batteries (often AGM - absorbed glass matt as used in aircraft, or GEL).

    For our larger panels, we use an Outback MX60 (or MX80) MPPT (maximum power point tracking?) regulator which is actually an inverter (costs a fortune). Now this inverter takes the input voltage and inverts to the desired output voltage without wasting the excess voltage. This gives us about 20% extra power from our panels, which is important when you do not have a lot of space on a sailing boat.

    The point of this, is that you might use some form of switcher to obtain the maximum power out of the panels here.

    Just thought I would share this with you all.

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  • TubularTubular Posts: 4,718
    edited 2010-03-01 08:17
    Ken, great addition to the parallax range. 4.9 amps is a massive current and useful for all sorts of things.

    The whole alternative energy scene is moving along very quickly. Is there any chance Parallax could produce a harvesting circuit based on the LTC3108 or similar to complement the panels?
  • Matt GillilandMatt Gilliland Posts: 1,406
    edited 2010-03-02 15:28
    There's "always a chance" Tubular :-)

    There's no doubt in my mind that clean energy, such as photovoltaic is "coming of age", and the cost of technology is getting·to the point where it's getting much more attractive.

    We're currently looking at several "add-on" possibilities that would enhance the raw power aspects of the "Thirty".· And I, for one, am personally interested in knowing what you'all·would like to see next!

    MPPT (Maximum Power Point·Tracking) is certainly high on my list.· This type of circuit -I'm working on an application note -·maximizes the amount of power that can be had from a raw cell panel.· (in short, the V/I curve is flat on voltage until too much amperage is drawn, then power output falls off a cliff and goes to zero.· MPPT manages this demand, and maximizes the power output based on what the panel can· produce vs. what the application wants to get - more on this·later).·

    Inverting (to AC) is sometimes (but not·always) coupled to an MPPT circuit especially when connecting to the "grid".·

    Battery charging power managment would be another application - especially in portable applications.

    What do you'all think?

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  • Roy ElthamRoy Eltham Posts: 3,000
    edited 2010-03-02 17:36
    Matt Gilliland,
    A MPPT charge controller board for 6/12 volt batteries (like the SLA/AGM deals that alot of us use with our robots) would be awesome.

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  • Ken GraceyKen Gracey Posts: 7,401
    edited 2010-03-03 05:37
    We also have a SLA battery charger in design that is compatible with the 30W solar cell. If you are all interested I'd be happy to post the schematic and concept here.

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  • Brian CarpenterBrian Carpenter Posts: 728
    edited 2010-03-05 14:43
    Ken,

    Please post

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  • Thomas BauerThomas Bauer Posts: 9
    edited 2010-03-05 20:09
    Here's the preliminary schematic for the cool.gif·SLA battery charger. I'll have more info once the first prototype is up and running.

    Thomas
  • hover1hover1 Posts: 1,929
    edited 2010-03-05 20:15
    Oh No!

    Another Tiny!

    Phil must of had his hands in this!wink.gif

    Jim
  • kf4ixmkf4ixm Posts: 529
    edited 2010-03-05 20:16
    Looking forward to this!
  • Guenther DaubachGuenther Daubach Posts: 1,321
    edited 2010-03-09 21:09
    Hi all,

    believe it or not, it is not Phil having hands on the Solar SLA Battery Charger - its me - the guy who loves the SX so much. With bleeding heart, I was forced to look for another microcontroller for this project, under the light of the recent SX-End-Of-Life situation.

    Using a Propeller would really be an overkill for this project, so I finally ended up with the ATtiny26. Mayby, I'll swich over to the ATtiny261 for the final design, as the 26 is no longer recommended for new designs. The 261 is pin-compatible, and seems to only require minor fixes to port 26 code to the 261.

    IMO, it makes sense starting a new thread for discussing the Solar SLA Batter Charger project. Therefore, please stay tuned - I'll start a new thread covering this project in the Sandbox section soon.

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    G
  • hover1hover1 Posts: 1,929
    edited 2010-03-09 22:08
    This is good news Gunther,

    I hold both you and Phil in the highest of standards.

    We know the SLA Charger is in good hands!

    Jim
  • Brian CarpenterBrian Carpenter Posts: 728
    edited 2010-03-10 04:01
    Got my panel today. Now to assemble

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  • Brian CarpenterBrian Carpenter Posts: 728
    edited 2010-03-10 06:07
    Got my panel today. Now to assemble

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  • Guenther DaubachGuenther Daubach Posts: 1,321
    edited 2010-03-10 17:19
    Jim,

    thanks a bunch for your kind words.

    I have just opened a new topic where you can find some more information about the charger: http://forums.parallax.com/showthread.php?p=889035

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  • Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi)Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi) Posts: 23,514
    edited 2010-03-10 18:05
    I haven't been keeping up with this thread, it looks like, else I'd have dispelled any assumptions about my involvement much sooner. My experience with charger circuitry is basically nil. Parallax has made an excellent choice in tapping G
  • kf4ixmkf4ixm Posts: 529
    edited 2010-03-11 22:46
    Slightly Off-topic, but funny.

    For those mounting your solar panels to the roof, please bird-proof the installation...

    http://www.yellowbook.com/roof-repair-solar-panel/




    Post Edited (kf4ixm) : 3/11/2010 10:53:03 PM GMT
  • Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi)Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi) Posts: 23,514
    edited 2010-03-11 23:09
    LOL! That's not what I thought the bird was going to do. (My expectation would have led to nothing more than a slight reduction in efficiency, repairable by cleaning. smile.gif )

    -Phil
  • John R.John R. Posts: 1,376
    edited 2010-03-11 23:24
    I've had an opportunity to try and use solar power for some remote cameras in Horicon National Wildlife Refuge. Our biggest problem was the environment, humid, cloudy, wet, lightning, rainy, did I mention there was a lot of water around? We also had problems with birds. In our case, the American White Pelican liked to nest on the panels. We tried tilting them more, and they learned to uses "stilts" on the low end. This was more than a little reduction in efficiency...

    Being a wildlife refuge, things like spikes and barbed wire didn't go over too well as solutions. As it turned out, ignoring all that except the latitude and clouds, we found we needed a panel about 6 feet square to power our gear. At this size, we began having issues with the "lightning antenna" effect. At least that's what I assume blew apart (literally blew apart) the 1500 Volt diodes. I really don't think our panels or marine batteries had the power to do that.

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