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AVRSIMON: From Parallax???!!

Oldbitcollector (Jeff)Oldbitcollector (Jeff) Posts: 8,091
edited 2010-02-23 16:40 in General Discussion
I got my issue of Nuts and Volts this morning to find an AVR project on the front cover
with Grand Idea Studios (Joe Grand) and Parallax logos on it.

It's a DIY simon game which the article says the details can be found at:
www.grandideastudio.com/portfolio/avrsimon 404 - page not found.

and that the kit can be purchased at www.parallax.com

I just double checked my issue of N&V. It says "March" not "April"

Parallax... An AVR project?... Really??...

OBC

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  • Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi)Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi) Posts: 23,514
    edited 2010-02-20 17:54
    "This just in: Like determined earwigs, AVRs have been quietly boring their way into the brains of Parallax products for years. They stealthily perform their nefarious duties in the likes of the MoBoStamp-pe, SoundPAL, ServoPAL, ColorPAL, and the Motor Mount and Wheel Kit position controller. Now that their insidious takeover is nearly complete, it was announced to the world in Nuts and Volts."

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  • Oldbitcollector (Jeff)Oldbitcollector (Jeff) Posts: 8,091
    edited 2010-02-20 17:57
    ROFLOL!

    OBC

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  • Oldbitcollector (Jeff)Oldbitcollector (Jeff) Posts: 8,091
    edited 2010-02-20 18:14
    ....wait a min...


    Weren't you the designer of the ColorPAL, ServoPAL, SoundPAL, and MoboStamp?

    hmmm..... Who's behind this infiltration??? [noparse]:)[/noparse] [noparse]:)[/noparse] [noparse]:)[/noparse]

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  • Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi)Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi) Posts: 23,514
    edited 2010-02-20 18:51
    Yeess. Yes, it was me. My plan has worked perfectly, and no one knew, until now that it's too late.

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    Excellent!
  • Joe GrandJoe Grand Posts: 70
    edited 2010-02-20 22:49
    Yes, it's true!

    The article actually came out a month earlier than we were expecting, so we were caught a bit with our pants down. I'm still working on the portfolio entry for my website with the full source code, schematics, and other development information (http://www.grandideastudio.com/portfolio/avrsimon/) which will be up by Monday, Feb. 22.

    The store entry on Parallax to purchase the kit (if you don't want to roll your own) will also be up soon!

    The avrsimon project is an AVR port of my previous open-source "Build Your Own Electronic Game Kit" (http://www.grandideastudio.com/portfolio/build-your-own-electronic-game-kit/) that I designed for the first Maker Faire way back when. I was asked to write a chapter for an upcoming book on AVR microcontrollers to be published by No Starch Press and thought this project would be a good one, since it combines elements of reading switch inputs, controlling LEDs, sound generation, sleep modes, and other useful, general purpose elements and it makes a great learning-how-to-solder kit. I'd never used AVR before this and don't see myself using it in any future projects (I usually use Freescale or Microchip for production and BASIC Stamp or Propeller for one-off/hobbyist experiments). But, I'm thrilled that Parallax was interested in taking it on as a product/kit and hope it will go over well [noparse]:)[/noparse]

    Joe

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  • Ken GraceyKen Gracey Posts: 7,401
    edited 2010-02-20 23:01
    Hey all,

    We have a long partnership with Joe Grand that transcends any reason to reject an AVR in a product (okay, unless it were an Arduino or AVR-Stamp, etc). We have AVRs in our Motor Mount and Wheel Kit, HB-25s, and the list of products Phil identified above. Don't expect much more than you're seeing, however, only because we focus our attention on the BASIC Stamps and Propeller chips. If you see an AVR in any of our products there will not be any compiler support or similar programming support traditional to other Parallax products. This product has a whole book chapter from Joe that will serve as the support people need for reprogramming. We don't have any AVR tools in Tech Support (sorry about that, for people who expected more). Joe will take care of that part for us.

    Availability? We're still waiting on some components to arrive and for kitting to finish, but we'll enable it for backorder this week.

    The AVRSimon is a neat kit and I've built a couple of them myself. I'm hoping that customers will enjoy the DIY approach and satisfaction that comes from a nice soldering job. The quality of the components in this kit are top-notch.

    Ken Gracey
    Parallax Inc.
  • Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi)Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi) Posts: 23,514
    edited 2010-02-20 23:22
    Congrats both to Joe and to Parallax! The AVRSimon looks like an eeexcellent product! smile.gif

    As Ken points out, the AVRs are used mostly for under-the-hood work and serve well in that capacity. Most people don't even recognize that they're there. (I had no idea there was one in the HB-25, until Ken mentioned it above.) They can be a very competitive solution where board real estate and cost are an issue and when they can be programmed once and forgotten without having to offer customer programming support.

    -Phil

    Post Edited (Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi)) : 2/20/2010 11:27:29 PM GMT
  • mparkmpark Posts: 1,305
    edited 2010-02-22 18:49
    ANTS -> AVRS! Too funny!
  • MicrocontrolledMicrocontrolled Posts: 2,461
    edited 2010-02-23 03:30
    *Sorry, posted something dumb here before*

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    Post Edited (microcontrolled) : 2/23/2010 12:29:06 PM GMT
  • BradCBradC Posts: 2,601
    edited 2010-02-23 08:00
    microcontrolled said...
    I am sorry to say that I am not impressed. But then again I have never programmed AVRs, PICs, or anything non parallax. However I do know that if given 4 LEDs 4 pushbuttons and a Propeller + EEPROM I could get this programmed in less then 2 hours. (In SPIN). Not that I'm putting Mr. Grand down and it is a cool project but why did it deserve front page of N&V? I don't want to offend anyone, I just want to know.

    P.S. Just got my copy today and have only read parts of that article. Maybe I'm missing some technical point.

    Micro

    I can't believe you just wrote that.

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  • MicrocontrolledMicrocontrolled Posts: 2,461
    edited 2010-02-23 12:25
    I cant believe I just did eather. I have to deleate that and stop posting so late at night. I find I usually get in trouble with my late night postings.

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  • MicrocontrolledMicrocontrolled Posts: 2,461
    edited 2010-02-23 16:40
    Ah, I WAS missing a technical detail! One, sound, as the speaker is in the middle I still didn't notice it. Two, 8-bit VS 32-bit. I've never programmed an 8-bit but I suppose it would be harder. Three, I was getting the Milton Bradly game "Simon" confused with something else that simply blinked lights in a pattern relevent to the button you pressed. smile.gif I should google things first.

    The board looks great and the pattern and layout looks welcoming, and the kit form of the device means that it will invite others to join the facinating hobby of electronics. Thank you Mr. Grand for another wonderful parallax product.

    Micro

    P.S. I like your serial RFID module. smile.gif

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