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Web surfing from a Belkin USB wireless router in puppy linux?

MicrocontrolledMicrocontrolled Posts: 2,461
edited 2010-02-16 23:09 in General Discussion
I have tryed to do this, but just installing Linux and all I do not know much about the system. How would I install a Belkin wireless "G" router in puppy linux?

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Post Edited (microcontrolled) : 2/15/2010 10:22:53 PM GMT

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  • FranklinFranklin Posts: 4,747
    edited 2010-02-15 22:00
    What are you doing? are you running Puppy on the router or connecting through it? Puppy has pretty good user support, I'd ask over there also.

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  • MicrocontrolledMicrocontrolled Posts: 2,461
    edited 2010-02-15 22:20
    I am running puppy on this computer (well, it's running Windows now, but was running puppy a while ago). The computer has a USB Belkin router that gives it the ONLY source of internet access. It comes with an instalation disk, but I can't get it working with Linux.

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  • FranklinFranklin Posts: 4,747
    edited 2010-02-16 03:43
    How are you connecting to the "router" (is it really a router?) and how is the router connected to the internet? Puppy is pretty good at finding network devices but the belkin just may be one of the ones it can't find. Go into the network configuration and make sure it is enabled, if I remember you need to start the network in Puppy. You should have this plugged in when you boot Puppy so it is aware of it.

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  • VIRANDVIRAND Posts: 656
    edited 2010-02-16 08:11
    I'm in Puppy now.
    If the dillo browser is open with Puppy help when you boot, close it for now.
    Click where the start button would be on Windows.
    Click SETUP ... it's near the top of the start menu on mine.
    Notice Linux-Firewall Wizard (I use it most of the time)
    Click Network Wizard
    If you are wired, you want ETH0 configure (ethernet)
    Info on how to configure ethernet is common enough that somebody knows or you can google it.
    You can google "What's my IP address?", The Mask address is something like 255.255.255.0,
    Your router manual if you have one has its address, something like 192.???.0.1, and how to setup a connection.
    If you are wireless, you want ATH0 configure*
    Click 'scan' to see the wireless network signals
    (if you see a few and don't know which is yours, try each one, starting with the first or the strongest)
    If your router has passwords and encryption (wireless) choose the encryption type and
    the router name and key, and if there is an autoconnect option, choose template, and if you use
    encryption, unclick "open" and click "restricted". Then click OK or done.
    You should be able to get online with DHCP, clicking that.That automatically gives you an IP address.
    If you never had to set up the internet connection before, then I gave you too much information; DHCP or
    your IP address is enough.

    When asked if you want to save the configuration, don't, until next time, if you get online,
    but instead write down what you did that worked.

    You click the BROWSER icon and get a mozilla, and you're online if the mozilla site or google comes up.
    If you can't get google, try the network wizard again.

    I assume BELKIN is a wireless dongle. If there is no driver for it, and network wizard keeps saying try a
    different "module" and no networks found, then maybe look at the drivers and see if you can find a wireless
    dongle that matches one of those drivers. They are very cheap now like a USB flash drive. But I would
    be surprised if you downloaded a new puppy and it had no Belkin driver. If it asks you to load modules
    then it probably doesn't though, it usually finds what works.

    Some stuff you probably could figure out by yourself:

    If your computer has an ethernet (NIC) jack, you shouldn't have any problem plugging it into the router
    or modem that connects to your ISP. I haven't been on dialup in a long time so I don't know exactly
    what to do if you are, but there are not too many different things to try. If you get online by wire,
    you can always download more puppies and use the "burn iso to CD" program in Multimedia in Start Menu
    and make all the different version puppy discs you can find, the latest ones would be 4 point something,
    at least. BELKIN is common, so there should be a driver for it. I'll try to find out which one.

    Some stuff I probably said before:

    If your computer only has a burner, I recommend removing the Puppy disc after it boots, so you don't
    burn anything on it that you don't want. I prefer to save stuff on USB flash plugs. If your computer has
    a CD ROM drive then you can just leave puppy in there and not worry about it. Puppy uses the CD as
    a hard drive USUALLY, but its my own preference to not save stuff on the same drive as the software.
    If you install software, you might as well burn a new CD with that software using the START-SETUP-REMASTER CD
    feature. The PET icon installs software from the internet easily, in RAM, until you either shut down and
    choose SAVE (on the puppy CD) or use REMASTER. Rebooting by ctrl-alt-delete , reset, or power switch
    clears out everything you didn't intentionally save. If you download stuff, small stuff can go in My Documents,
    big stuff that doesn't fit in memory can go on a USB drive, also, copy My Documents to USB drive then
    rename it to when and what it is. To access the USB drive, click Drives icon and "mount" the USB drive
    which is probably called sdc or sdd.

    I often use too many words to make easy things look hard. I sure hope you don't have a 'hard' internet connection.
    There's a Puppy Linux forum just like this one, search there for easier answers.
    Anyway, doesn't it look just like XP? And doesn't it setup and work like 1000 times faster and easier?

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    Post Edited (VIRAND) : 2/16/2010 8:32:47 AM GMT
  • BradCBradC Posts: 2,601
    edited 2010-02-16 08:44
    USB hardwired connections to the back of routers, and certainly a lot of USB wireless sticks are notoriously hard or often impossible to get running in Linux.

    With just a little more detail (like what the physical connection is, the router model number and version) we might well be able to help, or at least prevent you spending hours on a fruitless effort.

    The manufacturers of wireless chipsets, and often router chipsets seem to be very reluctant to divulge any details about how to actually talk to their devices. Unfortunate, but it means those of us that don't use windows shop a bit more wisely before throwing money at a manufacturer who repeatedly ignores requests for information. (Broadcom I'm looking at you).

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  • MicrocontrolledMicrocontrolled Posts: 2,461
    edited 2010-02-16 21:40
    @VIRAND: It worked! Thanks for the great help! I was going to the wrong menu the whole time! Thanks!!!

    P.S. It claims 5 second boot at startup but I've clocked it at around 41 seconds every time I've booted, at least 5 times, and I do have a valid save location, so what's up? Windows boots faster! (but this doesn't crash...)

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  • VIRANDVIRAND Posts: 656
    edited 2010-02-16 22:25
    It is possible to "remaster" Puppy with your preferred settings and apps, and without save (.sfs files).
    SFS files take several extra seconds to load, because they are like a data history file and not
    compact like the OS itself. I may be inaccurate, but that's how it appears to me.

    I think there is an option to not load the sfs files. By pushing maybe F2 when it says boot, it
    gives options to immediately type "puppy" and command different methods of booting from a list,
    including ignoring saved data. Puppy is a great hobby linux, and as I recall you can even write programs
    for it in BASIC, although I'm not sure if those programs are only scripts (batch) or whole GUI apps too.
    I've found some BASIC code in Puppy, and it is kind of classic looking, like DOS BASICs, not VB. smile.gif

    It would be awesome to write new internet apps in BASIC. I will try to find out if it has been done with Puppy.

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  • MicrocontrolledMicrocontrolled Posts: 2,461
    edited 2010-02-16 23:09
    You mean kind of like PBASIC? It's the best BASIC I know, and VB is barely a BASIC language!

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