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kberckkberck Posts: 10
edited 2009-11-13 07:35 in Propeller 1
Anyone else have problems identifying hardware after upgrading to windows 7? When I connect the cable the com port shows up but it cant find the propeller.
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  • bentybenty Posts: 20
    edited 2009-11-11 03:12
    Haven't had any issues with mine except if I try running through the XP mode in the virtual PC, then it won't recognize the hardware....
  • ElectricAyeElectricAye Posts: 4,561
    edited 2009-11-11 03:33
    But... but... the people on TV said this time the Windows upgrade would be different.... shocked.gif
  • mctriviamctrivia Posts: 3,772
    edited 2009-11-11 03:35
    there is drivers linked in sandbox for windows 7 32 and 64bit version.

    i have had no problems with windows 7 other then having to install both 32 and 64 bit drivers for lots of things because people have not writen 64 bit versions of everything yet.

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  • kwinnkwinn Posts: 8,697
    edited 2009-11-11 04:00
    ElectricAye, have I got a deal for you. See, there's this bridge......and you charge tolls....youll make a fortune on it.
  • James LongJames Long Posts: 1,181
    edited 2009-11-11 04:08
    I too have a deal.

    I have some Ocean front property for sale. Only problem.....you will have to wait for the ice caps to melt before the beaches arrive. smilewinkgrin.gif

    James L

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  • bentybenty Posts: 20
    edited 2009-11-11 04:29
    So far 7 is a lot better than XP for me so I actually believe the commercials, haven't even bothered to go back to ubuntu since installing it so that's something. Vista was kinda sucky though :/
  • TimmooreTimmoore Posts: 1,031
    edited 2009-11-11 04:43
    Been using win7 for couple of months, everytime I had a prop not found it was a hardware problem on the prop side.
    There is a ftdi driver update on their website that Beau pointed out a few days ago but I had no problems with the previous version either - using the 64bit version.
  • ElectricAyeElectricAye Posts: 4,561
    edited 2009-11-11 04:45
    mctrivia said...
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    i have had no problems with windows 7 other then having to install both 32 and 64 bit drivers for lots of things because people have not writen 64 bit versions of everything yet.

    Honestly, that's good to know. I've been lurking around waiting to hear what kind of problems were popping up with it. Nice to know that there hasn't been some kind of computational implosion going on all over the globe. Maybe it's just the name I still don't like. Maybe they should have called it Fixsta.
  • James LongJames Long Posts: 1,181
    edited 2009-11-11 04:47
    I've been using XP Pro for a couple of years, and before that 2000 Pro.

    I'll stick with XP Pro for a couple of more years, and let all the drivers catch up. I never get a new PC OS when it first comes out.

    James L

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  • RossHRossH Posts: 5,519
    edited 2009-11-11 04:54
    I'm sticking to my copy of Windows 1.0 - although I wish it wasn't such a resource hog!

    Ross.

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  • mctriviamctrivia Posts: 3,772
    edited 2009-11-11 05:09
    I made my new pc s month ago. Ran windows 7 beta until official release then purchased. Has been great.

    Tried running linux but could not get blu-ray player to work under it.

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  • James LongJames Long Posts: 1,181
    edited 2009-11-11 05:11
    RossH said...
    I'm sticking to my copy of Windows 1.0 - although I wish it wasn't such a resource hog!

    Ross.

    Ha....never had 1.0

    I started with 3.0. And a lightning speed modem of 2400. Wow...those were the days of just massive speeds. ASCII graphics and all.

    Pretty bad my RAM is bigger than my first hard drive.

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  • bentybenty Posts: 20
    edited 2009-11-11 05:17
    @James
    Yeah, stick with what works for you until you have a reason to switch. I got a discount so it was only $29 to upgrade to Fixsta, I mean 7 [noparse]:)[/noparse]

    The only issue I've really had is switching to 64 bit which I can't blame MS for since its the manufacturers who have to do the new driver.

    mctrivia, I always go to the Ubuntu forums when something isn't working, tons of people there who love to troubleshoot linux issues...
  • ElectricAyeElectricAye Posts: 4,561
    edited 2009-11-11 05:57
    RossH said...
    I'm sticking to my copy of Windows 1.0 - although I wish it wasn't such a resource hog!

    Ross.

    Aaaaah, for me there will always be a soft spot in my robot cow rectum simulator heart for Windows 5 and 6.


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    Just in case you missed it the first time:
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  • RossHRossH Posts: 5,519
    edited 2009-11-11 07:04
    This must be where they test out each new "Windows up date" - I never realized they meant it quite so literally (for the non-aussies out there, see this link)

    Ross.

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  • photomankcphotomankc Posts: 943
    edited 2009-11-11 07:06
    I've had zero issues with Prop software/plugs on Windows 7 and I've been working with it since the RC's. Early on there were issues with some virutal CD software and some of my older graphics apps but that has pretty much been addressed. I far prefer 7 to XP. Of course I never had all the consternation that people go on about with anything since XP. Anyway, I can't see any reason inherent to 7 that would kill your serial port but that does not mean there couldn't be an issue with the upgrade.
  • Toby SeckshundToby Seckshund Posts: 2,027
    edited 2009-11-11 07:31
    Just be patient. The new operating sysyem will be here soon, they call it Service Pack 1,2 3, .....

    Thank you all for volenteering to be Beta testers (Oh, and for all the donations)

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  • BradCBradC Posts: 2,601
    edited 2009-11-11 07:40
    Toby Seckshund said...

    Thank you all for volenteering to be Beta testers (Oh, and for all the donations)

    Donations? Pictures a trilby and tommy gun :

    A : "This is a very nice army base you 'ave 'ere guv. Be a shame if something 'appened to it"
    B : "What do you mean?"
    A : "Well, fings break you see. Be a shame if one of your tanks "caught fire"."

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  • SamMishalSamMishal Posts: 468
    edited 2009-11-11 12:06
    One of my biggest gripes with Vista 64 is that I could not install over 60% of my existing software
    (e.g. MatLab) .....and I mean I could not even INSTALL let alone run them. And many utilities that
    I have which are just EXEs would not run either.

    I now have a $1200 laptop that just sits around doing nothing except surf the internet since I had
    to buy another laptop and installed XP on it.

    Does anyone know if the FIXTA 64 (oops 7) can run old software or does it still have the same
    "we are going to force you to buy new software all over again" policy?

    Has anyone who upgraded to Vista 64 and could not run software from his XP days tried to run
    that very same software on Fixta 64?.....Please tell me if you could run any software that could not
    run on Vista 64.......I may pay the $$$$ to upgrade if Fixta 64 can run old software.



    @Rossh....I do not get·it...why is that link funny?.....Windows 1.0....AAAAHHH the good old days...

    @ElectricAye......idea.gif (re horse thing)

    @JamesLong...... turn.gif ...but REALLY you should start selling these properties....not long now....

    @BradC....good one...



    Entertaining post guys....tongue.gif

    Sam

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  • Jim FouchJim Fouch Posts: 395
    edited 2009-11-11 13:37
    I've been running Win 7 64Bit on two machines and have only had one issue with a Prop not being found and it was a hardware issue with the prop.

    Win 7 in general runs pretty good for me. Most of my older software runs w/o issue. One strange thing is Roxio 2009 needed to be upgraded to the newer 2010 version. Also DisKeeper 2008 also does not run with Win 7. But I have some older stuff written back in the 2000 tim frame that runs fine.

    I gues VB6 does not like to run with it either, but that is a product that was released 11+ years ago.

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  • mctriviamctrivia Posts: 3,772
    edited 2009-11-11 13:43
    Sam in Windows 7 they fixed the problem that made you get all new 64 bit drivers. You can now run both 64 and 32 bit drivers and software. The plus is it works. The down side is you will end up installing both for somethings because not all software is 64 bit yet so you need compatible drivers for both the old 32 bit programs and the new 64 bit ones.

    But it is worth it to be able to take advantage of all my RAM(32 bit limits to 3.5G) and there will be a significant speed increase once the high computational programs have been rewriten in 64bit.

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  • DroneDrone Posts: 433
    edited 2009-11-11 14:14
    You must be careful with Win7 hardware choices. I have lots of WinXP compatible apps and drivers that will not work with Win7. Supposedly these will work better(?) if you have a processor that supports Virtualization Technology in hardware. Cheap Netbooks with ATOM chips do not support this (by Marketing edict no doubt). There are several flavors of hardware virtualization supported by Win7 that may work with later Intel and AMD chipsets. This subject is beyond the Propeller Forum scope with the exception of "what if I want to run the Prop-Tool on one Propeller via Prop-Plug and another Propeller running the likes of Propalyzer logic analyzer in Win7?" This will likely need to be addressed when and if the Propeller-Scope comes out. Especially if the Prop-Scope is going to "scope" another propeller in Win7. Then there's the issue of .NET dependent applications like Propalyzer running in Win7 with another or more propellers connected. Hmmm... Tossing out folks, not much thought on my-part. Don't have the hardware to say more.
  • AleAle Posts: 2,363
    edited 2009-11-11 14:43
    This always happens. I have this nice Xilinx WebPack software that works on most Linuxes but the platform cable drivers... do not. They install and work on Centos 4.x but not Centos 5.x (they install, just do not work). And in the latest versions they do not even compile! (Kernels >2.6.25). Now I use it virtualized on Mac. you know... there are loads of problems.... I have VMWare 1.1 that works on Leopard but I do not know on SL, so I do not update this machine, but at home I have SL and no Xilinx platform cable support because I do not want to buy another vmware and VirtualBox has problems with Centos 4.x and 5.x works better but the cable driver does not compile... do I have to continue ? Sure computers made our lives easier ?... do not answer, please... let me dream. (Windoof is not an option besides the last one).

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  • RossHRossH Posts: 5,519
    edited 2009-11-11 22:24
    @Sam,

    Sorry - it wasn't all that funny in the first place, and explaining it further would only make it worse. Let's just say that I never actually realized WHERE you were supposed to install "Windows up dates". This may explain why they never worked for me - I always thought they were supposed to go in the computer, not the user.

    Ross.

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  • SamMishalSamMishal Posts: 468
    edited 2009-11-12 00:49
    @RossH

    OK...now I get it....it is funny.....MSoft is putting other things in users not just software upgrades
    and they are doing it more and more....

    With this new idea floating around with NO MORE PC....everyone is meant to have software off the
    internet and no more software actually running on·your PC....i.e. the PC is going to be a MAINFRAME-Terminal·.



    It really amazes me how CYCLICAL history is.......Mainframe-> Mini -> PC -> Networked PC -> |
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    One of the reasons I hated mainframes was the lack of flexibility and FREEDOM...........
    so now we lose our freedoms AGAIN......and the computer industry is just a METAPHOR
    for LIFE in general. Everything these days is going in exactly the same direction the PC
    industry is going.

    If JamesLong is selling property on Mars I may think about buying one....except I think
    I will be dead by the time they are ready........confused.gif



    Sam
  • VIRANDVIRAND Posts: 656
    edited 2009-11-12 09:11
    I'd use Propeller Tool on Win98 if I had it, and DOS (like all my other chips) if it would work...
    Because XP is slowing down again even though Propeller Tool is the only thing installed,
    and the Propeller is starting to fall asleep again waiting for Windows to deliver the data,
    and the serial and parallel ports for my other chip programmers are missing on the new PC's,
    and since I've been programming since 1980 I'm not going to throw away my life's work
    every time the Gates of Hell open up a new truckload of bovine excrement for sale and
    convince people they really need and want a bigger pile, now that XP doesn't stink as much anymore.
  • ElectricAyeElectricAye Posts: 4,561
    edited 2009-11-12 13:19
    VIRAND said...
    I'd use Propeller Tool on Win98 if I had it, and DOS (like all my other chips) if it would work...
    Because XP is slowing down again even though Propeller Tool is the only thing installed,
    and the Propeller is starting to fall asleep again waiting for Windows to deliver the data,
    and the serial and parallel ports for my other chip programmers are missing on the new PC's,
    and since I've been programming since 1980 I'm not going to throw away my life's work
    every time the Gates of Hell open up a new truckload of bovine excrement for sale and
    convince people they really need and want a bigger pile, now that XP doesn't stink as much anymore.

    lol.gif Maybe I'm still half asleep, but when I read this, it played out in my mind like a rap song.
    Is that just a coincidence or is there a YouTube version of your singing this somewhere?
    scool.gif
  • VIRANDVIRAND Posts: 656
    edited 2009-11-12 15:02
    ElectricAye said...
    VIRAND said...
    I'd use Propeller Tool on Win98 if I had it, and DOS (like all my other chips) if it would work...
    Because XP is slowing down again even though Propeller Tool is the only thing installed,
    and the Propeller is starting to fall asleep again waiting for Windows to deliver the data,
    and the serial and parallel ports for my other chip programmers are missing on the new PC's,
    and since I've been programming since 1980 I'm not going to throw away my life's work
    every time the Gates of Hell open up a new truckload of bovine excrement for sale and
    convince people they really need and want a bigger pile, now that XP doesn't stink as much anymore.


    lol Maybe I'm still half asleep, but when I read this, it played out in my mind like a rap song.
    Is that just a coincidence or is there a YouTube version of your singing this somewhere?
    scool

    The vironcybernet channel occasionally gets radio from the future, songs that haven't been
    sung yet, holographic video, and neutron flux from the Higgs Boson. I'm half asleep and hearing
    the rap song on the Convolvotron too. Wait a minute. What is a convolvotron? The lyrics are
    different, I'm not sure it's rap, maybe the operator on my pocket calculator? zzzzzzzz }|
  • Michael O'BrienMichael O'Brien Posts: 55
    edited 2009-11-13 03:51
    Windows 7 HP and Professional 64-bit work fine with the latest usb driver.
    Actually Windows 7 has the best device support yet. On one machine I have a 4 monitor setup using a matrox TH2G digital that had issues in Vista with 180 deg rotation and could only goto 4320x900 - with Win7 I was able to rotate and use the full native 5040x1050 resolution without installing any software.
    /michael
  • SennaSenna Posts: 6
    edited 2009-11-13 04:45
    I'm running win7 on my computer and so far its all good. I would suggest that anyone that is going to upgrade from XP to run microsoft win7 upgrade advisor at http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/downloads/default.aspx that should help find most issues before jumping into the upgrade.
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