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Stingray Grommet Tip

WhitWhit Posts: 4,191
edited 2009-12-13 08:55 in Robotics
Hey Stingray folks,

I found a grommet that fits the large hole on the Stingray Chassis plate. It is available at O'Riely Auto parts stores. It is a Dorman Help! #42317 PCV Valve Gommet for GM Vehicles - See http://www.eautopartstore.com/auto-part/795856-help-42317-pcv-valve-grommet·and attached picture.

For the small holes in the·sensor·mount plates, Radio·Shack's Vinyl Grommets (assortment) work great. It is part number 64-3025. See·http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2103392 and attached picture.

Let me know what you think.

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Post Edited (Whit) : 10/26/2009 2:06:01 AM GMT
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  • ercoerco Posts: 20,256
    edited 2009-10-27 17:24
    Good man, Whit! Nice to see you enthusiastically diving into your new Stingray. I have to ask how many robots you have, and if you will please post a photo or video of your collection. More importantly, what are you doing with them all? [noparse]:)[/noparse]

    Are they all charged up and ready to go at all times? Run them all simultaneously and video THAT!

    PS: I've used the Shack's grommet collection to hold my Heathkit Hero robot panels as well.

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  • Chris SavageChris Savage Parallax Engineering Posts: 14,406
    edited 2009-10-27 18:37
    This week I am working on objects/code for some sensors, but starting next week I will be working more on the Stingray. We'll get some stuff out soon.

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  • WhitWhit Posts: 4,191
    edited 2009-10-28 02:22
    erco said...
    I have to ask how many robots you have, and if you will please post a photo or video of your collection. More importantly, what are you doing with them all? [noparse]:)[/noparse]
    @erco,

    My wife would say too many! turn.gif

    Actually, it is not that many. Beside toys and some·little starter kits·- I have the Solarbotics' Herbie, the ChiBot Alpha that you sold me, a Boe-Bot, a Prop Proto Board Bot on a Boe Chasis,·two good Scribblers (and one damaged Scribbler) and the new Stingray. I keep them (battery-less) till I play with them, so they are up at all times.

    I kinda play with them one a time and just go back and forth learning different things. I just really enjoy playing with them all. I get excited about something new on one and work on that and then work on something else a while - it is not very efficient, but fits my schedule.

    @Chris

    Can't wait...

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    Post Edited (Whit) : 10/28/2009 11:27:55 AM GMT
  • ercoerco Posts: 20,256
    edited 2009-10-28 17:32
    Whit: Very good. I·think·you also have the Parallax motor & wheel combo, so don't forget that one! I have far too many, which started from a big toy robot collection from my misguided youth. I'll post a video sometime between 3 am feedings... Check this guy out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQ7OFqEmMB4·Now I don't feel so bad!

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  • WhitWhit Posts: 4,191
    edited 2009-10-29 13:59
    erco said...
    Whit: Very good. I·think·you also have the Parallax motor & wheel combo, so don't forget that one! I have far too many, which started from a big toy robot collection from my misguided youth. I'll post a video sometime between 3 am feedings... Check this guy out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQ7OFqEmMB4·Now I don't feel so bad!

    erco,

    Great video!

    I was not leaving out the 12 Volt Motor and Wheel combo, but they are not a part of a complete robot yet. I also have a Homework Board, a couple of Propeller Proto Boards and the Propeller Professional Development Board.

    My earliest robot and robot-like things were BEAM bot made from kits or old electronics junk. My misguided-ness, electronically speaking - began as an adult. smilewinkgrin.gif

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    Post Edited (Whit) : 11/12/2009 5:53:40 PM GMT
  • WhitWhit Posts: 4,191
    edited 2009-11-12 17:52
    Chris Savage (Parallax) said...
    This week I am working on objects/code for some sensors, but starting next week I will be working more on the Stingray. We'll get some stuff out soon.

    Hey Chris,

    Any progress on this?

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  • Chris SavageChris Savage Parallax Engineering Posts: 14,406
    edited 2009-11-17 20:41
    Whit, moving slowly...sometimes I think theere isn't enough of me to go around. I need some clones to get everything done. =)

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  • ManetherenManetheren Posts: 117
    edited 2009-11-25 16:48
    You would make lots of money learning how to clone yourself!!!

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  • Chris SavageChris Savage Parallax Engineering Posts: 14,406
    edited 2009-11-25 20:24
    Well, I'd make the money afterward, sure...I'd still be losing it during the learning stage. But I guess you have to spend money to make money as they say.

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  • Roy ElthamRoy Eltham Posts: 3,000
    edited 2009-12-10 22:39
    I just ordered a Stingray robot (and some sensor goodies) recently, and should be getting it tomorrow (just in time for the weekend). I'm looking forward to building and playing with this thing.

    Have any of you had experience with using VeX robotics parts with it? I'm hoping to be able to build on to this thing using some of the metal hardware (might have to drill or cut?) and maybe even the VeX servos and sensors.

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  • garycampgarycamp Posts: 5
    edited 2009-12-10 23:24
    I just found the Stingray. I've never built a robot but always wanted to. I am an old programmer and think it would be great to see software make real objects move. This kit looks pretty good and I read the manual, but the rechargable batteries seem hard to get at and I didn't see anything about recharging them. How is the recharging accomplished?

    Thanks
  • SRLMSRLM Posts: 5,045
    edited 2009-12-10 23:35
    @garycamp

    I use 7.2 V NIMH batteries in mine. These batteries are available at any RC hobby shop for a reasonable price (mine were ~$35 for 3000 mAh). It comes with a Tamiya connector however. To make it work I created a male tamiya to male barrel jack adapter, and plugged directly into the barrel jack input. For my charger I bought a cheap Turingy charger online that can charge multiple chemistries of battery. So in short, rechargeable batteries can be had either locally or online.

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  • garycampgarycamp Posts: 5
    edited 2009-12-11 00:15
    SRLM said...
    @garycamp

    I use 7.2 V NIMH batteries in mine. These batteries are available at any RC hobby shop for a reasonable price (mine were ~$35 for 3000 mAh). It comes with a Tamiya connector however. To make it work I created a male tamiya to male barrel jack adapter, and plugged directly into the barrel jack input. For my charger I bought a cheap Turingy charger online that can charge multiple chemistries of battery. So in short, rechargeable batteries can be had either locally or online.

    That sounds like a good solution but not quite the "simple" answer I hoped for.· Of course, I was hoping for 1) pull cable from controller board 2) plug into charger.· The elegant solution at some point would be to create a charging station that the Stingray could find and dock with.· Perhaps that is in the plans for the future.
  • SRLMSRLM Posts: 5,045
    edited 2009-12-11 07:15
    I disagree. It is a simple solution. To charge I 1) pull cable from battery connector 2) plug into charger. The hardest part was soldering together the plug adapter: all of five minutes on my way to class...

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  • Roy ElthamRoy Eltham Posts: 3,000
    edited 2009-12-12 00:58
    So UPS delivered the stingray and sensors today before work, and I have been sitting here all day itching to go home and start building it.
    Looks really nice, and came with a bunch of extra electronics bits I wasn't expecting (like leds and ir and such, similar to the boe bot). I guess I should have looked more closely at the pictures.

    Anyway, I'm sure I'll be back with questions later.

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  • garycampgarycamp Posts: 5
    edited 2009-12-12 13:36
    SRLM said...
    I disagree. It is a simple solution. To charge I 1) pull cable from battery connector 2) plug into charger. The hardest part was soldering together the plug adapter: all of five minutes on my way to class...

    Yes, I agree with you,·your solution·is·simple and it is exactly what I was hoping you could do with the parts supplied with the Stingray kit.· I just found it a bit strange that the kit includes·the parts for, and specifies placement of a rechargeable battery pack but does not provide a means to charge the batteries nor placement that facilitates removal of the batteries for recharging.
    Thanks for providing your solution.· I would be interested in hearing what Roy does for power on his new Stingray kit.· I am also curious how long the (or your) batteries last.
  • WhitWhit Posts: 4,191
    edited 2009-12-12 16:58
    @garycamp,

    See this thread for a battery access idea - http://forums.parallax.com/showthread.php?p=850036

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  • Roy ElthamRoy Eltham Posts: 3,000
    edited 2009-12-12 18:48
    garycamp, My plan is to do something similar to what SRLM did. I have several 7.2v rechargable battery packs that I use with my VeX stuff. I will be making an adapter cable that allows me plug one of those in to the Stingray's controller board.
    Initially, I plan to attach it to the Stingray using a hold-down strap thing I got for use with the VeX, and I'm going to put it on top along side the board (where one of the handles currently is).

    Here is a link where you can see the stuff I am using: http://vex.innovationfirst.com/vex-power-products.shtml, they also sell the Battery straps alone for $5. The connectors are fairly standard R/C car/toy stuff, so you can also buy batteries and I am sure straps and clips at any hobby store or electronics store that sells R/C stuff. Here's a link to a Radio Shack part that is what you'll need to make the adapter: http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2062132·They also sell 7.2v batteries and chargers for a cheap price of ~$20. (here's a link to a online seller that is much cheaper for the connector: http://www.allelectronics.com/make-a-store/item/CON-210P/2-CONDUCTOR-RC-BATTERY-PLUG/-/1.html).

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  • garycampgarycamp Posts: 5
    edited 2009-12-12 19:49
    Whit said...
    @garycamp,

    See this thread for a battery access idea - http://forums.parallax.com/showthread.php?p=850036

    That's the answer I was looking for and I apologize for not searching better.· Hm, for the fun of it I searched for "battery access" and it did not find your thread (which I did find from the link you provided and manually).· I searched for "stingray, battery" with "All of the keywords and phrases" and it came back empty as well.· I would have expected that search to find your thread.· Any hints for doing a better search are always appreciated.
  • garycampgarycamp Posts: 5
    edited 2009-12-12 19:55
    Roy, thanks for all the good information. After seeing Whit's good idea for accessing the batteries, I think I would still go with the RC battery that can be charged in place. But it is nice to know that I could get the basic kit going and change the batteries since I own a smart charger for 8 AA cells and lots of batteries to use with it.
  • SRLMSRLM Posts: 5,045
    edited 2009-12-12 22:32
    @Roy Eltham

    I wouldn't buy the battery holders from Vex unless you have to. I am using some very nice one piece velcro straps that I bought from home depot (or lowe's, don't remember) for about the same price but for a roll of 10 or so. And not to be too negative here, but unless you are in Vex (and the rules require it) I would transition away from NiCad batteries. The memory effect is generally considered to be a pain.

    I will comment though that I like what Vex is doing in the world of introducing younger students to robotics.

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  • Roy ElthamRoy Eltham Posts: 3,000
    edited 2009-12-12 23:11
    SRLM: I already have a all the VeX stuff. I bought a couple of sets, and various addon hardware/sensors a while ago. (I also have a bunch of old Mindstorms lego stuff (the pre NXT version), and a BoeBot.) It's stuff I was into before I found the Propeller (Via the Hydra, then PPDB, and now Stingray).
    I have some MiMH 7.2v batteries I got from other places, because they are better than the NiCads. I'm all too familiar with the memory effect issues (going back to my R/C 10 race car from many years ago).

    I've got my Stingray assembled along with the 3 PING kit installed and tonight I'll be hopefully writing some code to make it run around and avoid bumping into things.

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  • Roy ElthamRoy Eltham Posts: 3,000
    edited 2009-12-13 08:55
    Attached are some pics of my Stingray with the PING sensors and my battery setup.

    I haven't been out to purchase the proper connectors for making a "good" adapter, so the stuff in the pictures is just a temp hack wiring so I can test things.

    In that last pic I show where I used some of my VeX hardware (the standoffs) to mount the servo for my 4th PING (for reverse)·that is using the bracket/servo kit Parallax sells.

    The two sensors in the breadboard are the two-axis accelerometer module and a compass module.


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