I was saw these the other day i think it would be cool to use a prop as an io peripheral. these are tiny, only 3" by 3" you could make an amazingly powerful robot with a tiny form factor. ( my attempt to prop this out of the sandbox)
Hardware looks very cool - but how do you do anything with it? Ie. what to program in, etc?· (edit-> ok, I see you can develop CE or Linux binaries for it, but can you code it raw?· 1200MIPS!· Gawd.
If you want to go even smaller than the Beagleboard, try the Gumstix Overo, uses the same processor as the Beagleboard. I looked at both of these products, and decided a mini-itx<->Propeller would be the best fit for my robot project.
Hardware looks very cool - but how do you do anything with it? Ie. what to program in, etc? (edit-> ok, I see you can develop CE or Linux binaries for it, but can you code it raw? 1200MIPS! Gawd.
You can program it using any tool that supports the ARM. You don't need Linux or Windows to use it, but that is a much easier way to get support for the available resources.
You could (with more difficulty) write an binary that booted on the machine from cold.
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lt's not particularly silly, is it?
Oldbitcollector said...
All of this could be solved if a Propeller IDE was ported to CP/M..
OBC
Perhaps you should back this up with details or at least begin the discussion in a thread on that subject. I'm sure the CP/M freaks would be all over it and I would really like to see something sensible emerge from it besides seeing people stuck in a Z80 text based time-warp. Who knows, one might even make an Osborne smaller than a carry on sized suitcase with a Mac-like GUI .... Surely something survives from Xerox-Parc that could be applied. With 64 colors, the Propeller could manage a really decent GUI palette and single buffered display if someone bright enough tried hard enough.
Michael Park has already done a version of his Spin compiler that runs natively on the Propeller. It mostly needs a more sophisticated editor. He uses a special TV driver that keeps the display buffer in cog memory to free up hub memory for the compiler. The other I/O drivers are also loaded into their cogs and left there so the compiler (and other programs) don't need to include their code. The SD card file system is also written in PAsm so it can be left running in the cogs during compilation.
No. It will however be able to run Windows CE. Windows CE does use a butchered cut down subset of the Win32 API and GDI primitives, so it's not impossible to port basic Win32 software to run on it.
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lt's not particularly silly, is it?
Do you know if there is any USA distribution of the Bifferboards?
There are no USA distributors but shipping to the US is 5 uk pounds and takes about 4 days. Delivery hasn't been a problem so far. Only thing is we don't have the US power adapters but they are a fairly standard item, as supplied with many cheap USB hubs.
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My Prop Info&Apps: ·http://www.rayslogic.com/propeller/propeller.htm
Hardware looks very cool - but how do you do anything with it? Ie. what to program in, etc?· (edit-> ok, I see you can develop CE or Linux binaries for it, but can you code it raw?· 1200MIPS!· Gawd.
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The have more memory than the Beagleboard, cost less, but lack the A/V circuity that the Prop can easily provide for apps that need it.
-Phil
I love it! Except it doesn't run at low voltages for portability.
Someone mentioned another embedded 486 board this morning in another thread, but I can't
seem to lay my fingers on which conversation it was..
OBC
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New to the Propeller?
Visit the: The Propeller Pages @ Warranty Void.
Low Cost in eBay (Search "ARM9")
FriendlyARM with WiFi
Interesting options exist today (Full computer, low cost/power), but still waiting some info about Propeller II
You can program it using any tool that supports the ARM. You don't need Linux or Windows to use it, but that is a much easier way to get support for the available resources.
You could (with more difficulty) write an binary that booted on the machine from cold.
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lt's not particularly silly, is it?
OBC
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New to the Propeller?
Visit the: The Propeller Pages @ Warranty Void.
Do you know if there is any USA distribution of the Bifferboards?
Also,·Rabbit··(http://www.rabbit.com/)·makes SBC's.· I don't know if any run Linux though.
Couldn't find a US distributor with Google.
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Nyamekye,
No, the Beagleboard uses a ARM variant from TI. I'm glad though that Microsoft has inflicted its OS on other CPU's.
No. It will however be able to run Windows CE. Windows CE does use a butchered cut down subset of the Win32 API and GDI primitives, so it's not impossible to port basic Win32 software to run on it.
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lt's not particularly silly, is it?
There are no USA distributors but shipping to the US is 5 uk pounds and takes about 4 days. Delivery hasn't been a problem so far. Only thing is we don't have the US power adapters but they are a fairly standard item, as supplied with many cheap USB hubs.
regards,
Biff.