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Propeller II news ?

jmgjmg Posts: 15,184
edited 2009-09-17 09:13 in Propeller 1
I see it's been quite a while (12 months?!) since any mention of Propeller II ?

Did this get canned, a casualty of the recession, or is it still coming ?

What reminded me, was this news from Cypress, on their PSoC3, PSoC5

http://www.cypress.com/?id=2232

Not quite Multicore, but it does expand the PLD area to 20/24 tiles of 2x12C4 size,
so you get what looks like ~ 192 Macrocells, ~384 Product Terms
- not massive, but good for many IO tasks.

Each tile also contains what I'd call a nano-core : a teensy looping controller
[noparse][[/noparse]"This 8-bit wide datapath contains structured
logic to implement a dynamically configurable ALU, a variety
of compare configurations and condition generation."]

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  • MicrocontrolledMicrocontrolled Posts: 2,461
    edited 2009-09-16 00:09
    At UPENE, spoken by Chip himself, it was announced that it would be a year at the least before the Prop II made it's appearance.

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  • localrogerlocalroger Posts: 3,452
    edited 2009-09-16 00:14
    See, first we have to clear the Isle of Crete...

    (New avatar, gotta exercise it)
  • RobertWRobertW Posts: 66
    edited 2009-09-16 02:30
    I was wondering the same about the Prop II but have also seen replies along the lines of 'You'll see it when it's done...' So I did not post anything. Thanks for asking.
  • he1957he1957 Posts: 58
    edited 2009-09-16 11:32
    localroger,

    That new avatar of yours looks scarily like Dr Forbin wink.gif

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  • jazzedjazzed Posts: 11,803
    edited 2009-09-16 13:48
    Everyone would be better off to stop thinking about Propeller II (except Parallax).

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  • JonnyMacJonnyMac Posts: 9,198
    edited 2009-09-16 15:48
    Exactly. In 1999 Ken told me Chip was working on "custom silicon" that would be ready in "about a year" (Chip's estimation). The Propeller was released in 2006. These things take time.
  • ErNaErNa Posts: 1,752
    edited 2009-09-16 16:10
    Will not Ken give a short presentation in the netherlands? And design should be frozen that time?

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  • CounterRotatingPropsCounterRotatingProps Posts: 1,132
    edited 2009-09-16 17:21
    Steve (Jazzed) > ... to stop thinking about Propeller II

    Jon (JonnyMac) > Exactly. In 1999 ... The Propeller was released in 2006. These things take time.

    Then again, maybe we could think about it so much as to make a contest out of it [noparse]:)[/noparse])

    eeewww hop.gif

    ... assuming it doesn't fall under some obscure gambling rules, or some Las Vegas casino doesn't make a big deal out of it, why don't we have a little guess at the exact date the PropII shows up for sale (or is formally announced) on the Parallax home page? <G>

    The winner could win something like a PropII Pro Dev Board (P2PDB ? or PIIPDVB?) ... I would't be surprised if Ken would be willing to spring for that [noparse]:)[/noparse])

    So, Steve, from your last post here, would that mean you're wadgering the PropII was announced *yesterday* ? ;-P
    And, Jon, calculating ahead from your post, that means you'd be placing your chips on Chip delivering on Sept 16th, 2016 ? <G>

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    Post Edited (CounterRotatingProps) : 9/16/2009 5:49:31 PM GMT
  • Ken PetersonKen Peterson Posts: 806
    edited 2009-09-16 17:27
    CRP: Assuming you're serious, such a contest has no hope of being fair because the introduction of the product would not be a truly random occurrence. The guesses would be known and would influence the outcome.

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  • jazzedjazzed Posts: 11,803
    edited 2009-09-16 17:35
    @CRP, smile.gif
    As a prominent political figure from last century once said: "There you go again!" ... making me think about it [noparse]:)[/noparse]

    @Ken, actually It could be fair with a matrix with rows and columns denoting year and month respectively and cells picked at random by participants. The cells could be blocked but names kept anonymous except to the coordinator and the speculator until release day.
    The closest holder to the release month would win the pot (ties would split it).

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  • Ken PetersonKen Peterson Posts: 806
    edited 2009-09-16 17:43
    Sort of like football squares. That might work.

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  • jazzedjazzed Posts: 11,803
    edited 2009-09-16 18:12
    Ken Peterson said...
    Sort of like football squares. That might work.
    Yep. Now all we need is a volunteer (who should get a token reward for their time) so we can actually benefit from thinking about it ........ wink.gif

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  • Bob Lawrence (VE1RLL)Bob Lawrence (VE1RLL) Posts: 1,720
    edited 2009-09-16 18:26
    Re:The guesses would be known and would influence the outcome.

    Easy way to record the info but still keep it secret : Why not Just post all the guess info under the forum Help/rules section? ... since hardly anyone seems to read that section anyway. burger.gifsmilewinkgrin.gif
  • DroneDrone Posts: 433
    edited 2009-09-16 18:40
    Thanks @jmg for the heads-up on the PSoC3 announcement. I don't think it is a real competitor for the Propeller unless in specialized apps; but the PSoC3 and 5 are very interesting. Cypress has proven to be pretty stable, unlike the ARM-Luminary moving target. Worth a look.

    I hope you're post doesn't get relegated to the "sandbox" by Parallax just because you mentioned another processor (has happened to me once before). Possible Propeller-competing parts should be discussed in the Propeller Forum IMHO. I don't think Parallax has anything to fear. The Propeller has its place and it is strong - again, IMHO.

    Rgds, David
  • Nick McClickNick McClick Posts: 1,003
    edited 2009-09-16 18:40
    Why should the contest be fair?

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  • Bobb FwedBobb Fwed Posts: 1,119
    edited 2009-09-16 22:24
    jazzed said...
    ties would split it
    Split a PropII Pro Dev Board, seems like a familiar Bible story.
    The result: the person who loves the Prop II the most will give up the reward to the other person who tied.

    I'm in! Where do we start the guessing?

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  • HumanoidoHumanoido Posts: 5,770
    edited 2009-09-17 07:22
    Did anyone say the Prop 2 will replace the Prop 1?
    The BASIC Stamp 2 does not replace the BASIC Stamp 1,
    it supplements it. The powerful BS2px does not replace
    the BS2, it supplements it. I believe, in time, we will have
    a complete Propeller line of various chips to choose from.

    humanoido
  • SapiehaSapieha Posts: 2,964
    edited 2009-09-17 09:13
    Hi humanoido.

    Not it can't

    Only real uppgrade of Prop 1 to Prop 1.5 else other name can.

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