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  • HollyMinkowskiHollyMinkowski Posts: 1,398
    edited 2009-09-01 03:23
    What is neat about those old tubes is when the numbers change they take on a 3d flavor
    because the different number are lined up one atop the other.

    There is an old frequency counter that I sometimes use that has those tubes.
    It weighs more than my purse does wink.gif

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  • kwinnkwinn Posts: 8,697
    edited 2009-09-01 03:32
    Holly, that must be one heck of a purse!
  • Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi)Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi) Posts: 23,514
    edited 2009-09-01 03:34
    Here is a compendium of sources for Nixie tubes. eBay, in particular, seems to have a large variety of offerings, and they're still not all that expensive.

    -Phil
  • Cluso99Cluso99 Posts: 18,069
    edited 2009-09-01 07:28
    OT: Fantastic Clock smile.gif

    Yes I remember the nixie's with the digits in front of one another (shows age). Then came the green 7 segment flourescent tubes. I had a bunch of them. Used the NS clock chip. Anyone remember them?

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  • LeonLeon Posts: 7,620
    edited 2009-09-01 09:56
    kwinn said...
    Holly, that must be one heck of a purse!

    "Purse" is American for a handbag!

    Leon

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  • Agent420Agent420 Posts: 439
    edited 2009-09-01 10:18
    jazzed said...

    Woohoo!!! Time Machine! Can you set that to 1977 and Press Enter?

    I tried that, but it turned my kitchen green and orange, and the radio started making this horrid noise ;-)
    Actually, many of the components I used were from a salvaged old counter with early 70 date codes and turned out to be DTL (Diode-Transistor-Logic), a precursor to TTL and CMOS.·

    There seems to be a renewed popularity for these things now, I note that many of the ones on eBay are surplus from Russia.

    There's something about display technology that I love.· One of these days I want to try and build my own Edge Lit displays...

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  • LeonLeon Posts: 7,620
    edited 2009-09-01 10:36
    When I worked for Rank-Xerox (UK) many years ago, the 3600 copier had a control unit which used Burroughs Beam-X tubes as decade counters driving Nixies. One of my underlings converted one into a (rather large) digital clock. Given the cost of those units, it was probably the most expensive digital clock for use in the home ever made.

    Leon

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    Post Edited (Leon) : 9/1/2009 10:44:07 AM GMT
  • webmasterpdxwebmasterpdx Posts: 39
    edited 2009-09-01 15:17
    I've done a fair amount of audio on a PIC in the past. However, it usually involved the scale of a piano (Max frequency is 4186.01Hz)
    However, if you want to deal with the full audio bandwidth you are going to need a 40MSample per second. The propeller is 20MIPs per cog. You are really going to need to use a faster chip if you want to use that sampling rate.

    OK for speech level stuff, but not if you want the full audio spectrum. If the sound is from a particular app then there are things you might be able to do, but if you want to do this for any audio signal of high fidelity, then you are pretty much stuck at that rate.

    I use an EMU1616M DAW which handles 196KS/sec with a cardbus DSP and sound card. More than a prop could handle.

    You might be able to use an external sampler and buffer the data and send groups of samples to different cogs in parallel, working on 7 groups at a time. It might be possible, but it'd be a complex effort.

    Good Luck.
    -D
  • BradCBradC Posts: 2,601
    edited 2009-09-01 15:24
    webmasterpdx said...

    However, if you want to deal with the full audio bandwidth you are going to need a 40MSample per second.

    What are you smoking? A sample rate of 40Mhz? You tell us your DAW uses 196Khz and then state the propeller needs over 200 times that to handle audio?

    FYI, the Propeller is quite capable of handling a 44 or 96Khz standing on one cog.

    BTW, your DAW uses 192Khz not 196.

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    lt's not particularly silly, is it?
  • Agent420Agent420 Posts: 439
    edited 2009-09-01 15:44
    And while the highest fundamental note on a piano may be 4186Hz, there is actually quite a bit above that in what you hear due to harmonics and the mechanical striking of the string.·· If you listend to a piano played through a 4.1K lowpass, it would probably sound a bit odd.

    But mostly I think you've got your power of tens confused;· I think you meant 40K samples compared to 20M mips.

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