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Imposible soldering problem

SexieWASDSexieWASD Posts: 41
edited 2009-08-13 05:34 in General Discussion
Well I'm knee deep into designing a circuit for my guitar to handle switching the coil configuration of three humbuckers as well as volume and tone controls, controlling two graphtech preamps, and communicating with a 4d systems OLED display. I have a TON of I/O traces and the design is getting quite cramped.

I don't think that I'm up for soldering it, I don't believe that I have the skill to pull it off. Does anyone know of a company that could solder the components on, for under $200?


Unfinished design:

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EDIT: I really really want a prop with more I/O pins idea.gif

Post Edited (SexieWASD) : 8/12/2009 7:06:43 PM GMT

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  • jazzedjazzed Posts: 11,803
    edited 2009-08-12 19:08
    If you are not using QFN parts, I could do it by hand for much less than $200.

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  • Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi)Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi) Posts: 23,514
    edited 2009-08-12 19:20
    SexieWASD,

    I don't see any filter or bypass caps on your board. You need a filter cap where the power comes in, and at least one ceramic bypass cap for each IC; two or more for the Prop. Also, all of the Prop's Vdd and Vss pins need to be connected. (I'm assuming the LQFP-44 is a Propeller, right?)

    -Phil
  • mctriviamctrivia Posts: 3,772
    edited 2009-08-12 19:46
    i can do for under $200 even with BGA or QFN though both of those parts require you make the board correctly. Little brothers is good also though he prefers working with full reals of parts.

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  • SexieWASDSexieWASD Posts: 41
    edited 2009-08-12 20:09
    Yea the LQFP-44 is a prop, but it's not really fully wired in the pic, I am trying to figure out the signal trace routing then work around that.

    The power supply isn't on the board yet and will have a separate 3.3v and 5v regulator IC with filter caps for each fed from a 9v battery.
    I did not know that each IC would need a bypass cap as well, I fairly new to this and saw this a a good project to get my feet wet with, but it's turned out that fitting this much functionality in such a small space is really hard.

    Should all of the vdd pins on the prop have a separate capacitor?

    Also I don't think you can tell from the pic, but it's a four layer board with 3.3V and 0V planes in the center two layers


    It's good to know that some people on here are willing to freelance solder [noparse]:)[/noparse] of coarse I will have to revise my design first.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 7,620
    edited 2009-08-12 21:08
    All Vdd pins should be decoupled.

    Leon

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  • mctriviamctrivia Posts: 3,772
    edited 2009-08-13 05:08
    And just to clarify that means a cap each

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  • Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi)Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi) Posts: 23,514
    edited 2009-08-13 05:34
    "All Vdd pins should be decoupled."

    "And just to clarify that means a cap each."


    That's the party line, and you can't go wrong by following it. As a practical matter, though, particularly with a 4-layer board, and if you get cramped for space, two 0.47uF ceramic bypass caps on opposite sides of the Prop package should easily suffice. After all, the DIP40 package has only two sets of Vdd/Vss pins feeding the selfsame die. (Just be sure to connect all the Vdd and Vss pins to +3.3V and Gnd.)

    -Phil
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