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How do you buy an automobile in the US?

John BondJohn Bond Posts: 369
edited 2009-08-04 03:52 in General Discussion
Strange question for a Parallax forum but I don't know who else to ask...
How does a non-resident buy an automobile in the US
I’m visiting the US in September for 2 months and I would like have the use of a vehicle while there. I’ve budgeted to spend US$ 2000, say $1500 on the car and about $500 on insurance and registration expenses. I note from a quick internet search that one can get quite reasonable 10 year old vehicles for $1500.00.
Where can I find out if it is possible for visitors to purchase a vehicle in the US.
Thanks guys
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John Bond from the dark continent…

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  • Brian CarpenterBrian Carpenter Posts: 728
    edited 2009-07-22 13:38
    if you are buying from a private party. no one will care where you live

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  • kwinnkwinn Posts: 8,697
    edited 2009-07-22 14:01
    Also, if you are paying cash most dealers won't care. The difficulty may come with the licensing, insurance, and registration. Check with the DMV in the state you are buying the car. Check with the car rental companies as well. You may find you can rent a car for 2 months for less than buying one.
  • Oldbitcollector (Jeff)Oldbitcollector (Jeff) Posts: 8,091
    edited 2009-07-22 14:08
    Do you have an international drivers license?

    Purchase of the car itself shouldn't be an issue.. Cash talks many languages.. [noparse]:)[/noparse]

    You might find the following URL useful..

    www.usa.gov/Topics/Foreign_Visitors_Driving.shtml


    BTW, we drive on the wrong side of the road.. <SMIRK!>

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  • DgswanerDgswaner Posts: 795
    edited 2009-07-22 15:04
    what area are you going to perhaps you can find a fellow parallax junkie, to help you out.

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  • VelocitVelocit Posts: 119
    edited 2009-07-22 16:29
    I'm not sure where in the country you're visiting, but a South African (I assume you're from South Africa) can rent an economy or compact car in Florida from Budget for two months for about 1500 USD (that's taking into account taxes and fees and such). By renting a car, you won't have to worry about registration, insurance or getting rid of it when you leave the country.

    http://forums.parallaxinc.com/www.budget.com/budgetWeb/home/home.ex

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  • RobotWorkshopRobotWorkshop Posts: 2,307
    edited 2009-07-22 17:31
    If you don't care about having the latest flashy car to drive you may be able to save even more by renting one of the old cars......

    http://www.rentawreck.com/

    You may be better off renting. As already mentioned, cash talks and buying a car is no trouble. Just be sure to check out any potential purchase thoroughly since you want something mechanically sound so you can use it while here and not have it in the shop the whole time. At least with a rental they will just get you another car if there are any issues. The biggest issue may be getting plates and insurance.
  • John BondJohn Bond Posts: 369
    edited 2009-07-23 06:40
    Thanks a STACK guys!!!

    Renting is THE way to go. I'd worked on renting costing $45 a day but if it's only $30 and I can pick up a vehicle when I need it and drop it off again afterwards, that makes life much easier. I don't have to worry about my image so driving a "wreck" makes little difference in my life. I thought I could buy the car more cheaply than renting, I just did not know how I would register and insure it. Renting at $30.00 eliminates all of this.

    I'll have an international driver's license, mine has expired. That US Gov site was very useful. Also, our traffic rules are very different to yours, (you people drive on the wrong side of the road!!!) I’ve got some learning to do.

    I've never been to the States. I want to·see New England in the fall, then travel slowly south. I have to spend a week in Washington DC. I'm a fan of a guy named Robert E Lee (of Arlington Estate) so I will spend a couple of days visiting battlefields. I'm facinated by the "African Ammericans" so I will spend some time in the south. I love Jazz, Ragtime and Dixieland so a couple of days in New Orleans. The plan is to have few plans.

    I wish I had the time to cross the continent and visit Silicon Valley.

    Thanks again and kind regards on this glorious fresh clear winter's day in Africa.
    John

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    Post Edited (John Bond) : 7/23/2009 6:53:52 AM GMT
  • Mike GreenMike Green Posts: 23,101
    edited 2009-07-23 16:39
    "I'll have an international driver's license, mine has expired" ...

    Please read the US Gov site carefully. What you have is probably not a license. You must have a valid driver's license from the country whose passport you carry. The "international driver's license/permit" simply certifies in an internationally accepted form that your driver's license is a valid driver's license from your country.
  • skylightskylight Posts: 1,915
    edited 2009-07-23 20:00
    Oldbitcollector said...



    BTW, we drive on the wrong side of the road.. <SMIRK!>

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  • $WMc%$WMc% Posts: 1,884
    edited 2009-07-24 00:26
    [noparse][[/noparse]WAIT(a minute)]

    We drive on the "RIGHT" side of the road. Not the other,So We are Right and they are not Right,.But Left. Since Left is not Right, They drive on the wrong side of the road.Not the Right side!... The USA drives on the Right side of the road,Not the wrong side.

    I hope You have fun here in the US Mr.Bond. I would like to travel to Europe and Africa on vacation, Not on a work based trip.

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  • bambinobambino Posts: 789
    edited 2009-07-24 03:00
    John,
    If battlefields are on the agenda, then maybe Georgia and Tennesee is on your list! If so, I can highlight a lot of the attractions for you. One of my jobs is driveing a school bus in north Georgia, and there are not many places I haven't been chartered to take field trips to.
    In the fall there are also a lot of Civil War reinactments scheduled if your lucky enough to be here when they are having one!
    http://www.daltondailycitizen.com/entertainment/local_story_204115034.html
    http://www.nps.gov/chch/
    And you may want to ditch the car here and catch a Riverboat into New Orleans!
    http://www.neworleansonline.com/neworleans/tours/riverboattours.html
  • John BondJohn Bond Posts: 369
    edited 2009-07-24 06:33
    Here we are supposed to drive on the left but it doesn’t seem to matter much. In addition, pedestrians believe they have right-of-way (except on freeways) so you treat secondary roads with considerable respect, particularly after dark. South African pedestrians are dark and their fashion preference is for dark clothing so at night, you do not see them till they slam into your windscreen. If they’re drunk, they pick themselves up and stagger off again down the middle of the road. If they’re not drunk, you’re in trouble!!!

    @ bambino
    Georgia, Tennessee, real evocative names. I’m a fan of both Lincoln and Robert E Lee. As you probably know, they were fighting very different wars. I would also like to visit some of Mc Lellan’s follies.

    How did you know I love river boats!!!

    Thanks again for this AMAZING assistance on a totally OFF-TOPIC post.

    Regards from the dark continent
    John

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  • xanatosxanatos Posts: 1,120
    edited 2009-07-24 13:16
    John Bond said...


    I've never been to the States. I want to·see New England in the fall, .....
    Hi John,

    When you are going to be in New England, let me know.· I live in Western Massachusetts and I'd be happy to make some suggestions about what might be going on while you're in the region, and if you're passing near me I might even treat you to lunch!

    Dave X
  • John BondJohn Bond Posts: 369
    edited 2009-07-27 08:30
    Xanatos - Thanks for the offer.

    I am hoping to be in the US 04 Sept 2009 and New England two or three days later. I have no schedule though.

    I have distant family in Mass but I won't be seeing them. I may visit the city anyway because I am interested in the "European Influence" that people talk about.

    I'll let you know closer to the time...

    Regards
    John

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  • stamptrolstamptrol Posts: 1,731
    edited 2009-07-27 12:00
    ·Hi John,

    ·· Just catching up on your planned "walk-about".

    ·· If you're going to Boston area anyhow, consider another day's drive north to say hello.

    · Regards,

    · Tom Sisk

    · Fredericton, New Brunswick, Canada

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  • John BondJohn Bond Posts: 369
    edited 2009-07-27 12:35
    Thanks a stack Tom

    I would love nothing more than to buy the GREAT Mr Sisk lunch, (I've enjoyed your articles for years). I'll let you know my plans as they develop.

    John

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  • Alan BradfordAlan Bradford Posts: 172
    edited 2009-07-28 09:47
    Hi John,

    If you are making the trek from·Boston to New Brunswick, I am right on the way (almost).
    World HQ is 2 Hrs drive northwest of Boston, and I would be pleased to have a visit and meet a fellow Stamper.
    You can get contact info frommy website· www.plasmatechnologies.com

    Have a good trip

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  • BeanBean Posts: 8,129
    edited 2009-07-28 13:49
    If you get into PA, you would love Gettysburg for civil war stuff.

    Bean.

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  • John BondJohn Bond Posts: 369
    edited 2009-07-29 06:21
    Hi Dean

    Thanks for the tip. I’d planned to spend a bit of time there. I’d better program in a watchdog timer and interrupt routine or I will spend my entire stay in the US visiting civil war sites.

    Have a great week and kind regards from the Dark Continent.
    John Bond

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  • LoopyBytelooseLoopyByteloose Posts: 12,537
    edited 2009-07-29 15:39
    Some states, like California, will accept a foreign driver's license - even my Taiwanese DL written in Chinese.
    Other states, like Oregon, require anyone that is there for more than a few weeks to get a local DL and local insurance.

    But to rent a car, an international DL is much easier. The rental agencies don't like to handle information that isn't English.

    Sadly, I would suspect that it might cost $1500 for insurance and $500 for the car if you have a $2000 limit. Any American insurance company is likely to want a one year premium and force you to pay a higher 'assigned risk' rate as you have no driving history in the U.S. It might be easier to get an insurance rider from you home country's auto insurance and to rent a car at a monthly rate with proof of insurance as a way to waive buying U.S. insurance.

    How about getting insurance in South Africa, bring proof and buy the car locally, but no American insurance? You may have to check in advance with local authorities if they will register the car with foreign insurance as they may refuse.
    Selling the car at the end of your stay is problem unless you have someone that can do it for you. The economy is bad and it may take time to find a buyer unless you offer a wonderful price.

    If you have proper foreign insurance, maybe a friend will simply 'lend' you a car if you provide a cash 'gift'. People are out of work and gas is expensive. Someone may have a 'junker' that they can spare.

    I've never been stopped driving in California on my Taiwanese license, but I am quite sure the police would not be exactly pleased. After all, I don't even remotely look Asian, but the photo is right.

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    Post Edited (Loopy Byteloose) : 7/29/2009 3:49:47 PM GMT
  • John BondJohn Bond Posts: 369
    edited 2009-07-31 07:18
    Thanks Herzog

    I've been offered two cars for free, provided I insure them, and dispose of them after my trip. I am tending to favour the idea of renting a wreck in each city and using bus, train, plane between cities. That way I will meet more people.

    I now have an international license - Valid in the US for 6 months continoius use. All I got to do now is learn to drive on the other side of the road. You guys put the steering on the wrong side of the car. I'll also have to learn to change gears and pull up the hand brake with my right hand.

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  • BradCBradC Posts: 2,601
    edited 2009-07-31 12:58
    John Bond said...
    All I got to do now is learn to drive on the other side of the road. You guys put the steering on the wrong side of the car. I'll also have to learn to change gears and pull up the hand brake with my right hand.

    I found the hand / gear thing pretty easy, my biggest bit was left turns.

    My trick is to look out the drivers side window. If the centre of the road is on the other side of the car you are on the wrong side.

    I think there are still some Florida residents who are shaken up about a chrysler screaming down the footpath after misjudging a left turn... it's the sort of thing that :
    A) you only do once
    B) is funny with enough hindsight

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  • SRLMSRLM Posts: 5,045
    edited 2009-07-31 16:10
    John Bond said...
    I am tending to favour the idea of renting a wreck in each city and using bus, train, plane between cities.

    I'd recommend against taking public transportation unless you travel very lightly (backpack and small suitcase, no more). Plus, our public transportation outside of a city is generally pretty poor. You'll probably have trouble reaching the interesting sites that aren't downtown.
  • ElectricAyeElectricAye Posts: 4,561
    edited 2009-08-01 01:16
    Definitely rent a car. If the thing breaks down on your trip, it's the rental company's problem, not a massive headache for you.
    Nobody ever owns an old car: instead, it owns you.
  • Alan BradfordAlan Bradford Posts: 172
    edited 2009-08-02 21:04
    Hi John,
    I have driven on the wrong side of the road a few times in England and Oz. (Henry Ford gave the English a perfactly good car and they mucked it all up and put the stereing wheel on the wrong side!!!! It then spred through the Commonwealth like a virus.)
    I had the oppisit problem as you but they are still the same problems.
    One advantage we have is no 'Round abouts' Well not too many and they are not the free for alls as in the Empire.

    We do put our Traffic Lights on the far side or suspended them in the middle of the intersection.
    Most of the ones in Australia are at the close side of the intersection. My friend from Australia was constantly running the intersection and stopping on the far side. He got some funny looks and a good whif of rubber.
    When we drive cross a street or intersection we look right and turn left. This is backwards from what you are used to. I have scarred a few drivers in England and Australia and know this first hand. (Somewhere near Stonehenge there is a family, who Im sure still has stained shorts!!!!)

    If you can, when leaving a parking lot try to follow someone else. This helps releive the thinking about looking left, right, left, right then which side am I supposed to be on.

    Everyone I know from England who has come over here has gotten a 'High Speed Driving Award' (Speeding Ticket) on our Interstate Highways (motorways).
    In England when the sign says Speed limit 70 MPH they all know you can go 100 and not get stopped. (I got stopped for going 70 on the motorway and holding up traffic).
    Here you sometimes get 10 MPH over the limit then they got you.

    Now to avoid embarrasment, always carry a briefcase/notebook when going to the car.
    When you get to the wrong side and see there is no steering wheel, you can set the briefcase down and go to the other side and get in.
    (We will be watching to see you get in the wrong side, and if you do this we will think you are cool and in control and wont be able to laugh).

    Have a good and Safe Trip

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  • John BondJohn Bond Posts: 369
    edited 2009-08-03 06:35
    Hi SLRM
    I’m not an American, my expectations are a bit different to you guys. Thanks for that tip about not having too much baggage. I have toured quite a bit of Africa on a motor bike where you can carry almost nothing (and I carried a light weight tent too!!!) so I know how to travel light.

    Hi BradC
    Thanks for that tip. I watched a petrol-head movie last night and paid attention to the “feeling” of driving on the wrong side. What disturbs me a bit is I may look the wrong way at yields and intersections, We give way to the right.

    Hi ElectricAye
    Thanks, your advice on renting is spot-on. I want to tour, not fix! I am owned by a 17 year old Mazda with 300 000 miles, a 5 year old Opel, 160 000 miles and an old motorbike. I do my own maintenance and that's the reason why my vehicles become so old, they seldom break and when they do, it costs me pennies to fix them...

    Hi Alan
    Thanks for the laughter. Yes, my brother - a Frenchman, always tries to get in the wrong side. We don't seem to pay much attertion to traffic lights, we call them robots·so thats another skill I'll have to learn. I was doing 105 last night and thinking I'll have to practice dawdling on the freeway, put my emergency flashers on first so I don't get hit from the back.

    I am getting excited about visiting your country.

    John

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    Post Edited (John Bond) : 8/3/2009 6:44:10 AM GMT
  • BradCBradC Posts: 2,601
    edited 2009-08-03 07:45
    John Bond said...

    Hi BradC
    Thanks for that tip. I watched a petrol-head movie last night and paid attention to the “feeling” of driving on the wrong side. What disturbs me a bit is I may look the wrong way at yields and intersections, We give way to the right.

    So do we (Australians). The first day I drove in the middle east (wrong side of the car/road) I recall looking the wrong way and entering a roundabout in the wrong direction. The sort of mistake you only make once [noparse]:)[/noparse] Admittedly I learnt an awful lot very quickly about how well my car behaved under "extreme duress". Unfortunately I also learnt lots of new words that would horrify my mother from the female organic speed limiter in the passenger seat.

    Enjoy your trip. The States are always a blast [noparse]:)[/noparse]

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  • John BondJohn Bond Posts: 369
    edited 2009-08-03 08:38
    Hi BradC

    Visiting Oz (slang for Austrailia) is much easier for us because SA and Oz share a lot of common culture, we even play the same sports (though us South Africans want to play Rugby a bit more agressively!). The US is a whole new expreience, which other nation could have a Baseball World Series! I am expecting to be blown away...

    John

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  • stamptrolstamptrol Posts: 1,731
    edited 2009-08-03 16:42
    ·· I remember my first experience with right-hand drive. I used to maintain British sports cars which were a novelty here in eastern Canada. A friend who taught at the University brought a 1961 Austin Healy bug-eyed Sprite from England and would entrust it to me for maintenance and troubleshooting and the·odd date. The 4-speed with the left hand turned out not to be a problem but finding the pedals in the same order as a North American car was befuddling for awhile.

    ·· Later, I rented a car in the Bahamas where we're driving on the opposite side, but this time the Toyota was meant for North America so the steering was on the left side. Now, that adaptation was harder! Several roundabout incidents could have been embarassing other than traffic was very light!

    ·· My daughter toured Oz and NZ and being the driver who was insurable, rented a right-hand drive to tour the north island. That double change seemed to make the transition easier.

    · I suspect you'll adapt quite easily if you get through the first couple of days!

    ·Tom



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    Post Edited (stamptrol) : 8/3/2009 11:43:36 PM GMT
  • Carl HayesCarl Hayes Posts: 841
    edited 2009-08-03 22:54
    Alan Bradford said...

    I have scarred a few drivers in England and Australia
    Gosh, I hope their scars didn't disfigure them·terribly -- wouldn't want them scared when they look in the mirror.

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