BOOST Propeller Chip?
Humanoido
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How can I boost the Propeller chip to 200 Teraflops (200 trillion calculations per second)?
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... and then you just get 715 of them, and then ...
Ross.
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Catalina - a FREE C compiler for the Propeller - see Catalina
While you are there, how can I make my 1982 Volvo do 300 MPH ?
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He did ask about boosting "the Propeller chip", not "Propeller chips". It would certainly be easy enough to create a 10 x 10 x 10 cube, particularly if you use SMT parts instead of PDIP packaging. It would also be fairly straightforward to substitute Spin Stamps for the Basic Stamps in the Basic Stamp Supercomputer. You wouldn't get quite the same throughput, but 10 to 12 Spin Stamps would get you through the Teraflop barrier.
Drop it from an airplane.
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Duh - you've gotta take your foot off the brake!
at 80MHz you get 327.7 GIPs
at 140Mhz you get 573.4 GIPs
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@humanoido: Looks like you're gonna make a PSS then? I've wired-up 6 prop's, but haven't got around to coding yet
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Cheers,
Simon
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My Prop Info&Apps: ·http://www.rayslogic.com/propeller/propeller.htm
using the propeller.
I looked up the Cray1 and it was a 64bit 160MIPS system capable of about 100 MFLOPS.
The Cray1 would be easily matched by a propeller system and it was worth 5 - 8 million
in mid 70s dollars.
A multi-chip propeller system could probably reach a few billion floating point operations/sec.
But it would be cheaper and easier to use several overclocked quad core motherboards running Linux
to achieve high performance
Using the assembly floating point routines the time for a floating point add is 4.7us and for for a multiply 10.5us. If we take the average of those two we end up with 7.6us which ends up to be about 130,000 flops. Times this by 8 cogs and you get about 1 MFLOP. So, to get to the 100 MFLOPS you are going to need about a 100 props and then you will still only be working with 32 bit numbers and not 64 bit numbers. Like you say it would be a much better idea would be to just get any modern pc including a netbook. That should be able to do it easily.
I'm gone to Norwalk for a day and I miss this! ROFLOL!
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The single Propeller specification is 160Mips. Can you please explain how ten (or 12) Spin Stamps can get into the Teraflop range? Thanks.
humanoido
Post Edited (humanoido) : 6/18/2009 11:09:03 AM GMT
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For something on the order of a stack of boards, you should probably use a temperature controlled oven to do a whole board at a time once you've placed the parts in position. SparkFun has a description of how to make one from a toaster oven. I think Beau posted a project once upon a time for a Stamp controlled oven.
Other option pay someone.
For first 4 orders buy 10 pcb get another 10 free. Put offer code 42f in checkout notes.
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You can get a nice one really cheap direct from China (Ebay)
The hot air makes it easy to remove and solder sm chips.
Makes it easy to pull the part back off, clean up, and try again
I find a USB camera to be useful for giving a magnified view of
a circuit board. One of the rework stations at work has a microscope
on it.
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· Home of the MultiBladeProps: TriBladeProp, SixBladeProp, website (Multiple propeller pcbs)
· Single Board Computer:·3 Propeller ICs·and a·TriBladeProp board (ZiCog Z80 Emulator)
· Prop Tools under Development or Completed (Index)
· Emulators: Micros eg Altair, and Terminals eg VT100 (Index)
· Search the Propeller forums (via Google)
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If one propeller has a power dissipation of 1 Watt you would have a total of 16KW.
How do you want to cool it? Do you need it as central heating?
I find though prop normally runs much less more like 8mW/cog. So more like 150W. By the way new computer power supplies now sell in the 1.5kW range. Cooling would not be to bad good fan will do.
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propmod_us and propmod_1x1 are now in stock. Only $30. PCB available for $5
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YVSXRETml4
( Yeah, I know I posted that before, but it just seemed too appropriate :-P )
zettaFLOPS 1021
yottaFLOPS 1024
wholeLottaFLOPS 10210
Seriously though Humanoido, like Holly suggested, why not use a more appropriate platform? Several Nvidia GPUs put together can do some heavy number crunching, like this:
http://www.dvhardware.net/article27538.html
@Holly, Mike Green, SRLM, mctrivia - thanks for the tips on hot-air work. I've been looking into this for the first time. Mike, I'm like you, I've been shying away from them because of eyesight. Holly, your idea of a web-cam microscope has just bubbled to the TOP of my project to-do list - thx!· If I started a 'hot-air re/work' thread in the sandbox, would you all jump in a bit?
cheers
- Howard
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and re-integrated into brand new marvels... We strongly encourage you
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There is an Ebay seller named Mary Li Wang in Guangdong China that sells a basic hot air station for 118.00 delivered.
She has a 100% seller rating.
stores.shop.ebay.com/TheBestLuckCorner__W0QQ_armrsZ1
You can buy extra iron tips and nozzles that will ship free at the same time as the station... $8 each.
She even has a BGA rework station with scope for just $400
I've copied that over to the Sandbox where I've started a new topic, called "The Hot-Air (re)Work & SMD Soldering Thread " [noparse]:)[/noparse]
http://forums.parallax.com/forums/default.aspx?f=15&m=360823
If you know about hot-air rework, or SMD techniques, PLEASE drop in and contribute to that thread!
thanks,
- Howard
[noparse]/noparse][noparse][[/noparse] after this short thread interruption ... we now return you to your regularly scheduled thread topic
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"This device contains recyclable materials, which can be re-decomposed
and re-integrated into brand new marvels... We strongly encourage you
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thanks
- Howard
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