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Propeller System Module: In Production!

RaymanRayman Posts: 14,813
edited 2009-06-11 15:39 in Propeller 1
The first unit has just rolled off the assembly line and appears to work perfectly!

I'll start selling them soon.

I've put up a web page for it here:
http://www.rayslogic.com/Propeller/Products/Products.htm

Here's what it looks like (I've added a called out layout):

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My Prop Info&Apps: ·http://www.rayslogic.com/propeller/propeller.htm

Post Edited (Rayman) : 6/4/2009 9:41:16 PM GMT
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  • BADHABITBADHABIT Posts: 138
    edited 2009-06-04 16:25
    GOOD STUFF!

    How much?
  • BeanBean Posts: 8,129
    edited 2009-06-04 16:27
    How about a schematic too ?

    Bean.

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  • RaymanRayman Posts: 14,813
    edited 2009-06-04 17:20
    BADHABIT: I'm hoping to sell them for $95. I think this is much less than similar products.
    Bean: The schematic is not currently in presentable format! I'll work on that though...

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  • Bill HenningBill Henning Posts: 6,445
    edited 2009-06-04 17:53
    Well done!
    Rayman said...
    The first unit has just rolled off the assembly line and appears to work perfectly!


    I'll start selling them soon.



    I've put up a web page for it here:

    http://www.rayslogic.com/Propeller/Products/Products.htm



    Here's what it looks like:
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  • tripptripp Posts: 52
    edited 2009-06-04 18:54
    Nice, is the·LCD easy to use, do you have any code example?
  • FearTurtlesFearTurtles Posts: 89
    edited 2009-06-04 19:08
    Very nice. I might just have to get one. 8)
  • jazzedjazzed Posts: 11,803
    edited 2009-06-04 19:18
    Nice work Rayman!

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  • SciNemoSciNemo Posts: 91
    edited 2009-06-04 19:26
    If that LCD can be easily interfaced in code then I might get one of these to build a music player. Always wanted to replace my old 2nd Gen Nano (the only one that doesn't support linux [noparse]:([/noparse] ).

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  • RaymanRayman Posts: 14,813
    edited 2009-06-04 21:09
    The LCD is easy to interface.· There are two basic drivers to choose from, the graphical driver and the tile driver:

    The graphical driver does things like lines, circles, bitmaps, text, etc., on a pixel addressible basis in 18-bit color.· This is the driver used by the serial command interface app that the PSM will be pre-programmed with.

    The tile driver is as easy to use as TV.SPIN or VGA.SPIN.· The display basically pretends to be either a TV or a VGA monitor.· I've even run the "Graphics_Demo" with just a couple changes.· I will include something like TV_Text.SPIN to make it even easier...

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  • CounterRotatingPropsCounterRotatingProps Posts: 1,132
    edited 2009-06-04 21:55
    Looks VERY handy, Ray --- has a lot of features I've been looking for... your website's in my Favorites now [noparse]:)[/noparse])

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  • KMyersKMyers Posts: 433
    edited 2009-06-04 21:56
    Very nice indead! I'm·Still learning the Prop.
  • TubularTubular Posts: 4,706
    edited 2009-06-04 23:27
    Ray,

    Really nice. You've certainly packed a lot on there.

    Can I ask what the width of the board is?

    tubular

    edit: It would be a bargain at that price too. Similar (non Prop) boards are several hundred and only diff is touch screen and maybe ethernet

    Post Edited (Tubular) : 6/4/2009 11:32:34 PM GMT
  • RaymanRayman Posts: 14,813
    edited 2009-06-04 23:44
    The board is 3.8" x 2.5" and the four mounting holes are 3.0" x 2.0"

    The board is the same as required for ExpressPCB's $61 miniboard service.· I'm going to provide a layout with the headers so people can make their own accessory boards if they want.· I'm doing my own accessory board right now that will provide rechargeable battery power, RCA video jack, keyboard jack, mouse jack, real time clock, and (hopefully) a servo header (we'll see if I can provide enough current).· It will just attach to the back of the PSM with 10-pin, 3-pin, and 4-pin headers...· Of course, this uses up most of the free pins...

    That price may just have to be an introductory price.· I'll have to add something later for distribution costs...· I'm also planning on selling a few even cheaper at the West Coast expo!

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  • WhitWhit Posts: 4,191
    edited 2009-06-05 00:58
    Rayman,

    Nice!

    I also went to your site and found the RPN Calculator! Very cool...

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  • Mike HuseltonMike Huselton Posts: 746
    edited 2009-06-05 01:03
    Work, work, work. work. We need to keep our phoney balony jobs, people!

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    Post Edited (James Michael Huselton) : 6/5/2009 1:11:19 AM GMT
  • Cluso99Cluso99 Posts: 18,069
    edited 2009-06-05 04:03
    Nice work Ray smile.gif

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  • BADHABITBADHABIT Posts: 138
    edited 2009-06-05 05:19
    Put me down for one @ the expo
    tubular said...
    tubular

    edit: It would be a bargain at that price too. Similar (non Prop) boards are several hundred and only diff is touch screen...
    How hard would it be to add or change to a touch screen version?

    Even if it can't I will prob have to get these instead of Tube's PropPLC

    BH skull.gif

    P.S. Will the accelerometer work if the rig is in a vertical position?

    Post Edited (BADHABIT) : 6/5/2009 5:32:09 AM GMT
  • HumanoidoHumanoido Posts: 5,770
    edited 2009-06-05 05:37
    Is that LARGOS available for download? I'm looking for new OS's for the HYDRA and PROP Demo board.

    humanoido
  • RaymanRayman Posts: 14,813
    edited 2009-06-05 12:33
    It may be possible to add a touchscreen, I'll have to look into that.· If many people request it, I could do another version that adds a touchscreen in place of the accelerometer...

    The accelerometer works in any orientation. The part# is MMA7260QT.· Here's the datasheet:

    http://www.freescale.com/files/sensors/doc/data_sheet/MMA7260QT.pdf

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  • TubularTubular Posts: 4,706
    edited 2009-06-05 13:32
    BADHABIT said...
    Put me down for one @ the expo
    Even if it can't I will prob have to get these instead of Tube's PropPLC
    P.S. Will the accelerometer work if the rig is in a vertical position?

    Ut oh, competition is heating up and its still three weeks to UPEW shakehead.gif !

    I suspect there will be a flurry of great designs coming out. It may well be the best ever time to buy prop stuff...

    tubular
  • AleAle Posts: 2,363
    edited 2009-06-05 15:34
    James Michael Huselton said...
    Work, work, work. work. We need to keep our phoney balony jobs, people!

    My boss once said "I pay him to do his bobby". He knows me too well wink.gif

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  • Bill HenningBill Henning Posts: 6,445
    edited 2009-06-05 16:12
    Not yet... I'm working on it. I don't want to post it until it is in a reasonably usable state... try FemtoBasic until Largos is available.
    humanoido said...
    Is that LARGOS available for download? I'm looking for new OS's for the HYDRA and PROP Demo board.

    humanoido
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  • MicrocontrolledMicrocontrolled Posts: 2,461
    edited 2009-06-05 19:23
    I think that this is a very cool device, but for the price (which is great for the product it is) I would rather buy a touchscreen version.

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  • RaymanRayman Posts: 14,813
    edited 2009-06-05 20:12
    microcontrolled: Out of curiosity (or maybe Market Research), to get the touchscreen would you rather drop the accelerometer or pay $20 more?

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  • MicrocontrolledMicrocontrolled Posts: 2,461
    edited 2009-06-05 20:51
    Yes, both would be good options.
    I think that you should put an accelerometer socket on the touchscreen version so those who needed it could buy it and put it in themselfs.

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  • mikedivmikediv Posts: 825
    edited 2009-06-06 00:10
    Rayman nice job as usual , I would be interested in both types
  • RaymanRayman Posts: 14,813
    edited 2009-06-06 00:22
    Think I can add a touchscreen for $15 and leave the accelerometer...··Will look into that soon.· Will probably have to give up a few of the 8 uncommitted pins to make it happen.

    Seems like a good idea to put some epoxy on the LCD connector to make it look better and hold it in place.· I need to work on the "make it look better" part though, the epoxy was a little less viscous than I thought...


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  • hover1hover1 Posts: 1,929
    edited 2009-06-06 01:33
    Ray, This looks like a great single board solution for a variety of projects. With touch screen, could be good for mobile GPS logging, GOE Caching, etc.

    Question: what size EEPROM on board for Prop?

    Thanks,
    Jim
  • RaymanRayman Posts: 14,813
    edited 2009-06-06 01:51
    The EEPROM is just 32kB. But, you can use an SD card for datalogging...· (You can also add more EEPROMS using the I2C header)

    Also, the accelerometer can be used to give a kind of mouse input.· You can move a cursor just by tilting the display one way or another...· That and the pushbutton can let you create a UI that doesn't require a touchscreen or a mouse...

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    Post Edited (Rayman) : 6/6/2009 1:57:08 AM GMT
  • hover1hover1 Posts: 1,929
    edited 2009-06-06 02:47
    Rayman said...
    The EEPROM is just 32kB. But, you can use an SD card for datalogging...· (You can also add more EEPROMS using the I2C header)

    Also, the accelerometer can be used to give a kind of mouse input.· You can move a cursor just by tilting the display one way or another...· That and the pushbutton can let you create a UI that doesn't require a touchscreen or a mouse...

    Thanks Ray!

    I wanted to know if there was any EEPROM on board since it was not mentioned in any specs. Yes, SD is fine for logging. I use a 2GB uSD on a Proto Board with Tim's 3" NTSC LCD for GPS logging right now, and it works well in·most of·my situations, but it is too fat ( ie deep) for a current project. Your single board solution looks like a good fit.

    In·my current project, the display will be mounted·in a dash. I don't think I can hold the board·in one hand while driving·a hovervcraft at 50 MPH on water·tongue.gif· I would like to use a touch screen at the beginning of a race to·initiate the start of a logging session. I don't think any inputs could·be made when underway because·of the small screen input area when you are bouncing around. Maybe just the pushbutton for now to start and stop logging will be fine.

    When will they be ready to ship? Can I have one yesterday?·tongue.gif
    Jim


    Post Edited (hover1) : 6/6/2009 3:07:16 AM GMT
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