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RoHS2 .. for 2011/2012

QuattroRS4QuattroRS4 Posts: 916
edited 2011-11-18 08:41 in General Discussion
Hey all,
········ Attached please find a draft ..
also have a look at categories 8 & 9·in the following link·!!

http://www.pb-free.info/cat8.htm

some earlier reaction - http://www.freelists.org/post/tinwhiskers/RoHS-2-Moves-Forward-Run-For-Your-Lives

http://www.eera-recyclers.com/member/files/Reaction%20on%20issue%20paper%20Annex%20II%20-%20March%202009_0.pdf

List of materials - http://www.rsjtechnical.com/NewsRoHSsubstances.htm

Where is this going to end ? It makes for some interesting reading when looking at the material list !

Regards,
·········· John Twomey







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'Necessity is the mother of invention'

Those who can, do.Those who can’t, teach.

Post Edited (QuattroRS4) : 5/18/2009 4:38:30 PM GMT
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  • Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi)Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi) Posts: 23,514
    edited 2009-05-18 16:29
    Glass fibers? There go printed circuit boards and all variety of sporting goods and watercraft, not to mention insulation!

    -Phil
  • davejamesdavejames Posts: 4,047
    edited 2009-05-18 20:11
    Cobalt? There go magnets for high-power, light weight speakers.

    2,2'(ethylenedioxy)diethyl diacrylate; triethylene glycol diacrylate?!?!?!? MMMmmmmmm...tastes like chicken!


    When will it end? Only when we've been driven back to a purely agrarian existence. Then I'm sure someone will gripe about the type of wood used for the horse drawn plows. Right before someone else gripes about using horses to pull plows...

    DJ

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    Instead of:

    "Those who can, do.· Those who can't, teach." (Shaw)
    I prefer:
    "Those who know, do.· Those who understand, teach." (Aristotle)
    ·
  • QuattroRS4QuattroRS4 Posts: 916
    edited 2009-05-18 23:37
    davejames said...
    When will it end? Only when we've been driven back to a purely agrarian existence. Then I'm sure someone will gripe about the type of wood used for the horse drawn plows. Right before someone else gripes about using horses to pull plows...

    Great reply! - I would love to be able to laugh .. but unfortunately you are too close to the truth !

    Regards,

    John

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    'Necessity is the mother of invention'

    Those who can, do.Those who can’t, teach.
  • davejamesdavejames Posts: 4,047
    edited 2009-05-18 23:53
    ...smiles...

    DJ

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    Instead of:

    "Those who can, do.· Those who can't, teach." (Shaw)
    I prefer:
    "Those who know, do.· Those who understand, teach." (Aristotle)
    ·
  • SarielSariel Posts: 182
    edited 2011-11-17 10:23
    "Those who can, do.· Those who can't, teach." (Shaw)
    I prefer:
    "Those who know, do.· Those who understand, teach." (Aristotle)

    My personal favorite has always been "Those who can, do. Those who can't, supervise.
  • photomankcphotomankc Posts: 943
    edited 2011-11-17 10:35
    It ends sort-of where the warnings labels for cancer in California ends. Where every product on the shelf carries the same dire warning and any benefit, were there ever one to begin with, is long since lost. Meanwhile we suffer ever more expensive replacement materials and declining performance of those materials and politicals find the new boogy-man to ride another few years to the polls as they protect you from harm.
  • ercoerco Posts: 20,259
    edited 2011-11-17 10:59
    Doesn't NASA still specify old school, outlaw LEAD solder for space projects? If it's good enough for NASA...
  • SarielSariel Posts: 182
    edited 2011-11-17 11:33
    Because the "Outlaw" solder actually works. In my experiance, lead free is too prone to cold solder joints, and I assume that under such massive temperature changes and vibration, they would not want any more rockets to fall apart and explode.
  • ercoerco Posts: 20,259
    edited 2011-11-17 13:12
    Tin whiskers are the real problem: http://www.anoplate.com/featuredarticles/tin_whiskers.html

    Ten whiskeys is much more gooder: http://sicknight.com/best-whiskey/
  • Peter KG6LSEPeter KG6LSE Posts: 1,383
    edited 2011-11-17 15:40
    this is what happens when we let the EU and hippys run stuff.

    I have VERY strong feelings against RoHS .

    * chews on some kester 44*


    Peter ...
  • Martin HodgeMartin Hodge Posts: 1,246
    edited 2011-11-17 17:13
    Don't you dare drink out of a crystal goblet or you will grow a third arm out of your forehead.

    (Oh, and the Propeller ASC is fortified with 8 vitamins and Iron)
  • ctwardellctwardell Posts: 1,716
    edited 2011-11-17 17:19
    Peter KG6LSE wrote: »
    * chews on some kester 44*

    I used to have a habit of chewing on pellets when I would shoot my pellet gun, I guess that may explain a thing or two...

    I had to chew the pellets, BB's were too hard on the teeth...

    C.W.
  • LoopyBytelooseLoopyByteloose Posts: 12,537
    edited 2011-11-18 02:27
    Face it, it is a nasty Economic Trade Barrier and that is all it is. Somebody should challenge the EU on this kind of stuff. WTO where are you?

    But at least this time around, everyone will not try to set up parallel inventories for the EU. That really wasted a lot of time and money.

    Maybe somebody should push back by looking into the formaldehyde and other chemicals in the glue in IKEA furniture.

    At least you guys don't have to worry about melamine in milk or ethylene glycol in toothpaste. Asia is an adventure.
  • pjvpjv Posts: 1,903
    edited 2011-11-18 08:41
    Interesting and troublesome this RoHS issue. Our firm has been supplying industrial contol systems for over 40 years, and many of them are still operating in the field after 25 years. Some of the applications are oil/gas related, and the environments have traces of airborne chemicals like H2S ("rotten egg smell") that are associated with that industry. We never had much in the way of problems with this...... until the last couple of years. Turns out (not sure who figured this out) that it seems related to computer equipment manufactured under RoHS guidelines. Now the computers need to be changed out every 6 months, and reliabilirty is totally shot. The equipment that we ourselves manufacture under the old lead process comes though unscathed.

    So instead of reducing the amount of "electronic waste", these regulations are increasing it!

    Go figure. I'm not sure what these EU donkeys are up to, but like Loopy, I too believe it is trade-barrier motivated.

    Cheers,

    Peter (pjv)
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