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Where can I find a 10-28 screw?

Carl HayesCarl Hayes Posts: 841
edited 2013-11-01 10:07 in General Discussion
I have a spare spindle for the engraving machine I use for making front panels.· It is missing the mounting screw, which is a 10-28 screw one inch long.

10-24 UNC screws (Unified National Coarse) are easy to find.

10-32 UNF screws (Unified Naional Fine) are easy to find.

10-28 UNS screws (Unified National Something-or-other) are exceedingly difficult to find.· I need only one.· Can anyone suggest a source?· I don't particularly need any particular material (steel, brass, titanium, whatever, though brass would be nice), and I don't especially care about the head shape (Fillister head, binding head, etc.), although a socket head would be nice.

I've spent days Googling for 10-28 screws.· Some guns use them, but only too-short ones.· A friend says that early Cessna control-panel screws were 10-28, but that's unverified.

Any ideas?

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  • SRLMSRLM Posts: 5,045
    edited 2009-03-13 05:28
    You can try Small Parts. Another potential source is Tacoma Screw.
    Tacoma Screw Website said...
    Hard-to-find items are a specialty for us. Our customers trust us to locate and deliver these specialty products.

    If you should have any questions regarding our products or need assistance locating a hard-to-find item, please do not hesitate to contact us.
  • Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi)Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi) Posts: 23,514
    edited 2009-03-13 06:44
    Carl,

    'Any chance you could drill out the mating hole and install a Heli-Coil insert for a more conventional size?

    -Phil
  • Carl HayesCarl Hayes Posts: 841
    edited 2009-03-13 07:38
    Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi) said...
    Carl,

    'Any chance you could drill out the mating hole and install a Heli-Coil insert for a more conventional size?

    -Phil
    Certainly.· That would be easy.· I'd rather not do that, for then this spindle would no longer be interchangeable with an unmodified one, and its resale value would drop by about a hundred bucks.· Occasionally (maybe once a year or so) original mounting screws, which have a unique half-wing-bolt kind of head,·apear on eBay -- haven't seen one there in some months though.

    Here's an image of an original.

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  • Carl HayesCarl Hayes Posts: 841
    edited 2009-03-13 09:16
    Additional note:· The screw is used as an adjustment clamp.· The spindle assembly slides along a track and is clamped in place to set the reduction ratio of the engraving pantograph between 2:1 and 7:1.· I hope eventually to find an original clamp screw, and don't want to make the spindle assembly unusable with it.

    Meanwhile, my engraver has two sets of pantograph arms (most don't).· The second set is a duplicating arm and·is fixed at 1:1, and the (identical) spindle mounts in a fixed location.· I intend to keep the second spindle mounted·on the 1:1 arm, so don't need the handle for frequent loosening and tightening.

    The second spindle actually came from a whole second engraving machine that I bought in derelict condition and am refurbishing for sale on eBay.· Eventually that second spindle will go back to that second machine (I've already rebuilt it with new bearings) when that engraver is ready to sell (but I may give away instead, to a friend who runs a Judo school in North Carolina and would like to engrave trophies).· There are some missing items (including that screw) that need to be replaced before I can sell it in good conscience.· I'll get them on eBay, and by the time I'm ready to sell it, I'll have a couple hundred bucks in it.· It should sell at about six hundred or more, so I hope for a nice profit.· Thus I don't want to drill and Helicoil the spindle assembly even though I have all that Helicoil stuff on hand.

    Maybe I'll buy another spindle on eBay, with screw, rebuild it, and sell it without screw (but with full disclosure).· Seems a drag, and might be a money-loser.

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  • stamptrolstamptrol Posts: 1,731
    edited 2009-03-13 12:03
    ·Carl,

    · A quick Google for 10-28 turned up WB Parts which list a number of 10-28 parts including many for aircraft, so the Cessna connection is probably good. Is there a flying club or maintenace airport in your area?

    · Alternatively, get a 10-28 die and some rod and make up a few bolts for yourself.

    ·Cheers,

    ·

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    Tom Sisk

    http://www.siskconsult.com
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  • CannibalRoboticsCannibalRobotics Posts: 535
    edited 2009-03-13 14:50
    Here in Austin there is a store called 'Austin Bolt' they have this type of stuff or can order it.
    You might just run a local yellow pages query for nuts and bolts. I would think most major cities would have a similar supplier of specialty machine items.
    There is also a magazine called Home Shop Machinist ( http://www.homeshopmachinist.net/ ) that is typically packed with sources for weird parts for stuff like guns, machine tools and steam engines - go figure.
    Whose the manufacturer?

    Jim-
    PS: Small parts would have been my knee jerk reaction too but they do not carry it. That surprised me, I thought they had everything.

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  • Carl HayesCarl Hayes Posts: 841
    edited 2009-03-13 15:01
    stamptrol said...

    ·Carl,

    · A quick Google for 10-28 turned up WB Parts which list a number of 10-28 parts including many for aircraft, so the Cessna connection is probably good. Is there a flying club or maintenace airport in your area?

    · Alternatively, get a 10-28 die and some rod and make up a few bolts for yourself.

    ·Cheers,

    ·

    I had found that too, but 10-28 in their listings is a portion of a part number, apparently unrelated to the thread size.· However, I guess I'll send them an e-mail.

    "Get a 10-28 die" -- more or less like saying "find the holy grail" or perhaps "flap your arms and fly to the moon".· I've looked for taps & dies too.· But thanks anyway.

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  • Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi)Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi) Posts: 23,514
    edited 2009-03-13 16:33
    Carl,

    I think I've discovered the problem. Your screw isn't really a #10 but, rather, 3/16" (a distinction without a difference, perhaps). Retry your search for 3/16-28. It's still not a very common size, but I got a lot more hits than with a #10. 3/16 and #10 may be a "crossover" size between inch and numbered bolt series (although 3/16" stovebolts are customarily 24tpi).

    -Phil
  • stamptrolstamptrol Posts: 1,731
    edited 2009-03-13 16:40
    · Try this.

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    Tom Sisk

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  • CannibalRoboticsCannibalRobotics Posts: 535
    edited 2009-03-13 17:32
    Good observation, how do you know it's a 10-28?

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  • PropabilityPropability Posts: 142
    edited 2009-03-13 17:40
    Some of the pantographs (just sold mine) were of German make (Deckel) and I'm pretty sure they used metric which this sounds like it is (M5).
  • Carl HayesCarl Hayes Posts: 841
    edited 2009-03-13 19:45
    CannibalRobotics said...
    Good observation, how do you know it's a 10-28?

    It's definitely 28 threads per inch (meshes nicely with a 1/4-28 capscrew).· I decided it was #10 by using a micrometer to measure the diameter at top-of-thread and a bottom-of-thread.· But you're right, it could be a 3/16-28, which had not occurred to me.· Hmmm ...

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  • Carl HayesCarl Hayes Posts: 841
    edited 2009-03-13 19:49
    Propability said...
    Some of the pantographs (just sold mine) were of German make (Deckel) and I'm pretty sure they used metric which this sounds like it is (M5).
    This one's a New Hermes ITX-A.· While there are·abundant metric fasteners on it -- especially set screws -- this particular screw definitely isn't metric.· I'd say the screws & fasteners in the ITX are about 3/4 SAE and t 1/4 metric.· Good thought, though.

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  • Carl HayesCarl Hayes Posts: 841
    edited 2009-03-13 20:04
    stamptrol said...



    · Try this.

    Just sent them an e-mail.· Thanks!

    · -- Carl

    First e-mail bounced.· Evidently they've changed from sales@tapco.com to sales@tapcousa.com.· Just sent one to that.

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    Post Edited (Carl Hayes) : 3/13/2009 8:22:29 PM GMT
  • Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi)Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi) Posts: 23,514
    edited 2009-03-13 20:17
    Carl,

    Have you tried this guy for a replacement screw?

    -Phil
  • Carl HayesCarl Hayes Posts: 841
    edited 2009-03-14 05:21
    Eeeyow!· Tapcousa.com quoted me $68.49 for a die!· Ummm, gosh, thanks, Tapco, but, uh --

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  • johannjcjohannjc Posts: 1
    edited 2013-10-30 04:40
    Carl,
    Just stumbled upon this 4 yr old post - but I was wondering if you had any luck finding your #10-28 set screw? I have been trying to replace a set screw for a bracket for holding up a curtain rod and I am pretty sure at this point that I need a #10-28 screw. If not, you might try finding this type of bracket... or I could send you a couple set screws and just buy new brackets... ~Jonathan
  • jonesjones Posts: 281
    edited 2013-10-30 09:30
    FWIW, I thought I'd point out a source for odd taps and dies. Victor Machinery carries a good selection at reasonable prices and 10-28 is available in either a 13/16" OD die or the more common 1" for $10.40 and $11.50 respectively. http://www.victornet.com/subdepartments/Special-Pitch-Dies-up-to-1-2/1350.html
  • BigFootBigFoot Posts: 259
    edited 2013-11-01 09:45
    Try McMaster Carr. http://www.mcmaster.com/#
  • JordanCClarkJordanCClark Posts: 198
    edited 2013-11-01 10:07
    Not at McMaster. Not that I don't like 'em, they just don't carry any. What I think the OP had in mind is actually a 12-28 screw. Found these at MSC.

    Anyway, since this is a five-year-old discussion, it's probably moot.
  • 3/16-28 screws are used in various lengths on Juki sewing machines. I have a similar problem in restoring a drum set from the late 70s early 80s made in Japan - I found that this company sells the screw for Juki sewing machines - 3/16-28 L 14 which is the exact screw I need - call them to verify your head specs - I think they are pan head Phillips. Not sure of the make but I believe stainless steel. hope this helps http://www.pennsewparts.com/
  • jshoag27, welcome to the forum! :smile:
  • #10 = 10*.013+.060 = 0.190" dia
    3/16 = 3/16 = 0.1875 dia
  • The OP's request is almost seven years old, folks!

    -Phil
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