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Near Field Magnetic Induction Charging

Mike HuseltonMike Huselton Posts: 746
edited 2009-02-28 20:25 in Propeller 1
I want to charge lithium-ion batteries using magnetic coupling. This occurs in cordless toothbrushes that rest on a waterproof charging base.

I want to charge a 3.6 volt lithium polymer cell. I know all about the physics of inductive coupling and transformers.

What do you recommend for coil in the fixed base and portable unit? I need recommendations on frequency, inductance, coil turns and such.

I want magnetic coupling for safety reasons and easy-of-use. I've got plenty of circuits to charge lithium polymer batteries.

But the magnetics I'm not so sure of. Damn the inverse square law!

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  • mctriviamctrivia Posts: 3,772
    edited 2009-02-28 02:59
    obviously because of inverse square law you want as physically close together as possible.

    As for frequency it depends on the coil size but uully higher frequencies are better. 200kHz is probably a good starting point.

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  • Mike HuseltonMike Huselton Posts: 746
    edited 2009-02-28 03:06
    200 khz sounds like a good start. High frequency efficiencies, Q-factors and all that...
    I'll wind the coil on a plastic sewing-machine bobbin, then try different caps to zero in on the resonant tank freq.
    Light weight is also a freebie, since the bobbin is air core. If need be, I can insert a ferrite slug if things don't work out.
    Maybe a Colpitts oscillator or just a 555 driving a power FET or 3055 junction transistor will do.

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    Post Edited (James Michael Huselton) : 2/28/2009 3:16:34 AM GMT
  • Carl HayesCarl Hayes Posts: 841
    edited 2009-02-28 03:33
    Ferrite cores are wonderful for confining a magnetic circuit so that it will not couple to nearby objects. But that seems to be the opposite of what you want to do, eh? You want to couple the magnetic circuit in the base, and the magnetic circuit in the portable object, so that they become a single magnetic circuit.

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  • Mike HuseltonMike Huselton Posts: 746
    edited 2009-02-28 03:38
    Yup. Transformer 101. I need to obtain some #30 magnet wire. Or scavenge the junk box.

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  • heaterheater Posts: 3,370
    edited 2009-02-28 03:58
    Don't be so hard on the inverse square law.

    It saves us from, well just about everything. Noise, heat, light, xrays, alpha, beta, gama, mother-in-laws....[noparse]:)[/noparse]

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  • Mike HuseltonMike Huselton Posts: 746
    edited 2009-02-28 04:24
    In a five-dimensional universe, the force of gravity would be enough to orbit small objects around a fat person.
    Stars would collapse around a mile across and would last one year. Sound would propogate very weirdly.

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    Post Edited (James Michael Huselton) : 2/28/2009 4:29:48 AM GMT
  • LeonLeon Posts: 7,620
    edited 2009-02-28 10:12
    RF in the near-field obeys an inverse cube law.

    Leon

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  • PhilldapillPhilldapill Posts: 1,283
    edited 2009-02-28 17:13
    Ah ha! I was thinking that, Leon...

    (I'm in my first of 3 Electromagnetics classes at my University)
  • Ken PetersonKen Peterson Posts: 806
    edited 2009-02-28 19:05
    if you want to maximize coupling, put one coil inside of the other. That's probably what happens in the toothbrush charger. When you load down your circuit, it will tend to reduce your resonant frequency. So tune it under load, i.e., with the battery charging.

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  • Mike HuseltonMike Huselton Posts: 746
    edited 2009-02-28 20:25
    Good suggestion. yeah.gif

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