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Chips Getting Hot

SRLMSRLM Posts: 5,045
edited 2008-11-06 00:18 in General Discussion
Question: how hot is the PSC supposed to get when powered by USB?

I think I may have fried my chip. The situation is as follows: when I hook up the USB PSC to the cable (USB) it heats up to about 160 degrees F in about 10 seconds. At first, I thought it was because I had shorted it. But no, when I removed it from the housing and dangled it by the cable: same thing. My concern is that I had shorted it before: what happens when the five contacts (3 for the switch, two for the terminal block) are electrically connected?

I tried running the software, but it doesn't seem to control a servo. I see the FTDI usb LED flash when I change a command on the PC, so I'm assuming that I get the data correctly.

Post Edited (SRLM) : 11/4/2008 5:57:08 PM GMT

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  • Chris SavageChris Savage Parallax Engineering Posts: 14,406
    edited 2008-11-03 16:36
    Sounds like perhaps servo power was introduced into the controller power system...it sounds like it was damaged and is going into thermal run-away.

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  • SRLMSRLM Posts: 5,045
    edited 2008-11-03 22:58
    Ah. So I'll ask: is the chip fried? I don't suppose Parallax sells one of those center chips by itself... Note: the temperature holds at 160 F. It doesn't go any higher or lower (at least in the five minutes that I measured)
  • Chris SavageChris Savage Parallax Engineering Posts: 14,406
    edited 2008-11-04 15:57
    The chip is not available separately. However you may be able to contact our Tech Support Dept. and they may be able to help you out.

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  • SRLMSRLM Posts: 5,045
    edited 2008-11-04 17:54
    Okay. I'll get on that. One other question, semi related ...

    On my PPDB board, I hooked up a stepper motor to the L293 chip. Input voltage is 9 V 1 A. A similar thing happened: when I ran the code from the N&V column, "Stepping out with Spin", the chip gets very hot. In about four repetitions of the program, the temperature had risen to 160F. It's very consistent, a steady rate of about 2 degrees per second. I was afraid to let it go any higher. Is it that I'm drawing too much current? I'm taking it in later today to measure and see how much I use, but if it's not that, then what?
  • Chris SavageChris Savage Parallax Engineering Posts: 14,406
    edited 2008-11-04 19:11
    SRLM, what is connected to where (be clear in your connections) and which chip is heating up?

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  • SRLMSRLM Posts: 5,045
    edited 2008-11-05 01:24
    Sorry about the short info. The motor driver chip gets hot, while the prop stays ice cold. Connections are pretty much the same as in the N&V article "Stepping out with Spin". I have hooked up the stepper drive in a +ABAB- format on the terminal blocks, where AA/BB pairs are a coil (as indicated by a continuity test), and +- are supply voltage. For connections on the I/O to Propeller side, see the article. I measured how much current the stepper draws, and it turned out to be about 900 mA (at ~6.5v)·when in the continuous rotation mode (just spinning). When it was quickly changing dirrection the draw would pop up to about 1.2 A.

    I tried it with a higher voltage (15 v) and a set maximum current draw of 600 mA (as specified by the L293D datasheet). However, when I turned it on, the voltage would pop down to about 5v, with current limited at 600 mA.

    I also tried it with a physically smaller stepper, but it seemed to have the same draw.
  • Chris SavageChris Savage Parallax Engineering Posts: 14,406
    edited 2008-11-05 16:47
    Are you using a Unipolar or Bi-Polar Stepper Motor? Please explain what wires are connected where…I am still not clear about the Stepper Motor connections.

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  • SRLMSRLM Posts: 5,045
    edited 2008-11-06 00:18
    The stepper motor that I'm using is a four wire (Bipolar, I think, but I'm not that familiar with steppers) The black and brown wires show continuity in a pair, likewise, the orange and yellow are a pair. I found a supplier for the motor here, it's titled "Minebea Printer Stepper Motor. (RFE)" and is third from the bottom. I've attached a picture showing my setup.The wall plug that I'm using in the photo is rated 9V 1A. When I measure it without load though, it's giving me 13.2 volts.
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