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Long distance comunication

noobmunchernoobmuncher Posts: 124
edited 2008-04-23 23:25 in BASIC Stamp
Hello,

I am working on an ever expanding robot and I would like to add wireless control to it. By this I mean I would like it to be able to communicate between the robot and my computer. I need it to be a wireless connection, but I require it to be able to have a range of 3 kilometers (1.8 miles). Does anyone have any suggestions or ideas as to how I can achieve this?
Thanks,

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  • Mike GreenMike Green Posts: 23,101
    edited 2008-04-21 04:33
    That's difficult (and expensive). Most of the short range solutions are low power and line-of-sight. You can't increase the power enough without getting a license and the frequencies involved require directional antennas and literally a direct view.

    That said, there are some WiFi systems with that sort of range like:
    radiolabs.com/products/wireless/antennas/2.4gig/long-range-wifi-kit.php. Do a web search for "long range wifi".

    Other options include getting an amateur radio license, then using a 2M walkie-talkie with a packet modem at each end.

    Another possibility would be to get a cell phone/modem designed to be used with an external controller and using the cell modem for communications. SparkFun has some modules and breakout boards: www.sparkfun.com/commerce/categories.php?cPath=66_69.
  • UghaUgha Posts: 543
    edited 2008-04-21 10:42
    I did a little research into long range wireless as well. I think Mike's right that cell phones are about the best bet you'll have.

    Want to share why you need such a long range?
  • stamptrolstamptrol Posts: 1,731
    edited 2008-04-21 13:11
    There are numerous unlicensed, FCC/IC approved data radios, one of which is from Maxstream (now called Digi). They are available in 100 mW and 1 watt power ranges. They are really easy to interface to the Stamps.

    In the applications I've done, we were transmitting two-way data at 9600 and below. With reasonable line of sight, the 100 mW can work at a couple of miles, the 1 watt can get out there 5 - 7 miles. Special antennas can increase that to 30 - 40 miles but the antennas are very directional.

    Mouser, Digikey, B&B Electronics all sell them. As Mike pointed out, they are more expensive than a piece of wire. You'll be looking at about $300 - $400 per transciever by the time you get an antenna and cables.

    Cheers,

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  • noobmunchernoobmuncher Posts: 124
    edited 2008-04-22 03:44
    Lol yeah i am looking into communicating from my high school (3.4 kilometers away) to my house wirelessly. I am rigging my house to be almost fully automated as far as security and roving robots goes. As well i also want to start looking into my next project which will be a self controlled flying or possibly blimp like robot. That is why i need a long range wireless solution.

    As far as the cell phone module goes, can some one explain that to me please? I don't really understand how it works, what it is, or how i would be able to interface with a basic stamp.

    Thanks
  • Mike GreenMike Green Posts: 23,101
    edited 2008-04-22 03:59
    Look at the SparkFun page. They have a worked example of a weather station. Most of the communications with this cell phone module is via serial I/O (SERIN / SEROUT). You need voltage translation from the 5V logic of the Stamp to the 2.8V logic of the module. The manufacturer's hardware manual has an example of the circuitry needed.
  • noobmunchernoobmuncher Posts: 124
    edited 2008-04-23 04:23
    Okay I will look into it thanks
  • Ken GraceyKen Gracey Posts: 7,401
    edited 2008-04-23 23:25
    I've got an approach that will achieve your goal. Obtain your amateur radio operator's license and use handheld radios with this product http://www.tigertronics.com/rtx12.htm

    Depending on obstructions, repeater access, antennas and radio setup this distance may or may not be a problem.

    Ken Gracey
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