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Emiter base backlash from motor or relay

mosquito56mosquito56 Posts: 387
edited 2008-01-08 18:25 in Propeller 1
·I just got the prop to turn on a Radio Shack PNP to drive a 12v light. Works great. I want to hook up a small dc motor 12vdc again from radio·shack. Will the PNP protect the prop from the voltage spike when the motor or relay is turned off?
· I am not sure about Emitter, base backlash thru a transistor.

Transistor is TIP3055 70 W, same size as 5 and 3.3 v regulators.

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Post Edited (mosquito56) : 1/7/2008 7:55:36 PM GMT

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  • Mike GreenMike Green Posts: 23,101
    edited 2008-01-07 19:54
    The same circuit that's described in the Industrial Control tutorial starting on page 85 for the Stamp applies to the Propeller. Have a look.

    www.parallax.com/Store/Microcontrollers/BASICStampModules/tabid/134/List/1/ProductID/142/Default.aspx?txtSearch=industrial+control&SortField=ProductName%2cProductName
  • mosquito56mosquito56 Posts: 387
    edited 2008-01-07 20:06
    Thanks for the link. I used the program for the servo's and it doesn't say anything about a diode. A servo is a motor right? I assume( God I hate that word) the servos are very low currnet devices so I can run them from the prop.
    The motor I want to run is a very small brushed motor. Reading the industrial control says to protect the mosfet from spikes so I will have to find a diode somewhere. Thanks again for the link.

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  • LeonLeon Posts: 7,620
    edited 2008-01-07 20:59
    The MOSFETs I've used for a stepper motor driver have diodes built-in (Fairchild FQP7N10).

    Leon

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  • deSilvadeSilva Posts: 2,967
    edited 2008-01-07 21:29
    @Mosquito: Servos contain many internal components; you only set the PWM control lines from the Propeller,
    that do not go to the stepper directly, and can be @3 volts.
    Edit:
    Using the advantages of servos as "motor" needs minor modifications only:
    www.seattlerobotics.org/guide/servohack.html

    Post Edited (deSilva) : 1/8/2008 1:55:51 AM GMT
  • Fred HawkinsFred Hawkins Posts: 997
    edited 2008-01-08 02:07
    This pdf, http://www.parallax.com/dl/docs/cols/nv/vol1/col/nv6.pdf

    explains nicely how diodes are used to protect inductor load drivers. The last page offers a schematic.
  • mosquito56mosquito56 Posts: 387
    edited 2008-01-08 16:05
    Thanks again for the info. many sites for hacking servos but I have no need right now for this. When I start the cnc project will be needed. I was cleaning garage and found some old Radio Shack motors and thought I'd give em a try.
    I found the 1n4001 diodes someone recommended on another thread at mouser. Those suckers are 5cents each. I ordered 100 and the cart changed the price to 3cents each. My problem is that my order is only $25. Need some recommendations on things to buy to build up the warchest for latter.
    I was running out of projects to do with the education kit. Luckily my new toys came in from Ucontroller yesterday.

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  • deSilvadeSilva Posts: 2,967
    edited 2008-01-08 17:01
    I pointed you to a large set of recommendations in a German wiki some weeks ago... Some forgotten thread of your many...?
  • mosquito56mosquito56 Posts: 387
    edited 2008-01-08 17:10
    Weeks ago??? I can't remember what happened yesterday. Amazing how a diparaging remark is always called for in your posts.



    LEON: Thanx for the numbers order 10 to get me started.


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  • LeonLeon Posts: 7,620
    edited 2008-01-08 17:42
    You will need a pullup to 5V if driving them from Prop outputs, as the gate voltage range is 2-4V. I was using them with a 5V PIC.

    Leon

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  • deSilvadeSilva Posts: 2,967
    edited 2008-01-08 17:52
    mosquito56 said...
    Amazing how a diparaging remark is always called for in your posts.
    Yes, I noticed that too... But it is not really disparaging... I should call it: crestfallen..
    You generaly ask the most extraordinary things....
    There are many people who take the effort to answer you, according their best knowledge, just to HELP you.
  • ClemensClemens Posts: 236
    edited 2008-01-08 18:12
    BTW, deSilva,

    I have some continuous rotation servos from parallax, that saves me from hacking the servos...
    http://www.parallax.com/Store/Robots/RoboticComponents/tabid/198/CategoryID/70/List/0/Level/a/ProductID/102/Default.aspx?SortField=ProductName%2cProductName
    Do you think one could hack an encoder into these? -Something like drill a hole into the top and put a reflector on one of the cogs and read it with a ir-led/phototransistor combination ...
    I know, for the Boebot parallax offers wheel encoders, but it would be nicer (and more precise) to have something directly on or in the servo.

    @Mosquito: Sorry, I hope this is not thread hijacking as it has at least roughly to do with your original post.

    Cheers,

    Clemens
  • mosquito56mosquito56 Posts: 387
    edited 2008-01-08 18:25
    No, I don't feel it's hijacking, great idea though. Hacking a Futaba servo is so easy I wouldn't pay for another servo. I only have a couple hundred servos so the idea of buying another was left a nasty taste.

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    Post Edited (mosquito56) : 1/8/2008 6:38:09 PM GMT
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