Why Are Too Few Females in Robotics? Could It Be the Robots?

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  • What? Boys sewing? Shocking I tell you.

    As the late great Fred Dibnah said:

    "Teaching boys to bake cakes? That's no way to maintain an industrial empire."

    OK, I have to come out on that one. When I was 11 years old I could knit. We knitted our own custom woolly bobble hats to wear on fishing trips. It's something I kept quite about for decades. Then recently I learned that young snowboarding dudes also knit their own woolly hats.

    erco,
    ...what if I'm a hardware guy, trapped in a software guy's body?
    Easy, just write HDL for FPGAs and ASICs :)
  • erco wrote: »
    I couldn't afford most of their stuff, but a company named Frostline Kits sold affordable DIY gear. I sewed lots of kits making booties, gaiters, jacket and even a tent! I still have the 60/40 jacket I sewed over 40 years ago, works great.

    That's really cool! Thanks for the link - great stuff - I wish some of the kit stuff would come back. I know there are still some great kits out there for all sorts of stuff. It is great idea.

    Whit+

    "We keep moving forward, opening new doors, and doing new things, because we're curious and curiosity keeps leading us down new paths." - Walt Disney
  • Yep!
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  • Yep!

    Priceless! :)
    Infernal Machine
  • This one is almost as cute as Erco's girls!
    Carol Lynn Hazlett
    carolhaz391@gmail.com

    In the birthing of any machine there is that moment when it actually works. It is always fresh and astounding for me...............Red Whittaker

  • Almost. ;)
    "When you make a thing, a thing that is new, it is so complicated making it that it is bound to be ugly. But those that make it after you, they don’t have to worry about making it. And they can make it pretty, and so everybody can like it when others make it after you."

    - Pablo Picasso
  • Whit wrote: »
    erco wrote: »
    I couldn't afford most of their stuff, but a company named Frostline Kits sold affordable DIY gear. I sewed lots of kits making booties, gaiters, jacket and even a tent! I still have the 60/40 jacket I sewed over 40 years ago, works great.

    That's really cool! Thanks for the link - great stuff - I wish some of the kit stuff would come back. I know there are still some great kits out there for all sorts of stuff. It is great idea.

    I had to get this vintage gaiter kit. Almost as rare as an unbuilt Heathkit!

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Frostline-Gaiters-Kit-111-Unisex-/253075493560

    "When you make a thing, a thing that is new, it is so complicated making it that it is bound to be ugly. But those that make it after you, they don’t have to worry about making it. And they can make it pretty, and so everybody can like it when others make it after you."

    - Pablo Picasso
  • MikeDYurMikeDYur Posts: 2,175
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    Not robotics, but a very special group of women chosen for a complicated task.


    Unearthing the legacy of Harvard's female 'computers' -

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-40879870
  • Has the movie "Hidden Figures" been mentioned yet? A great mostly true story.
    "When you make a thing, a thing that is new, it is so complicated making it that it is bound to be ugly. But those that make it after you, they don’t have to worry about making it. And they can make it pretty, and so everybody can like it when others make it after you."

    - Pablo Picasso
  • Heater.Heater. Posts: 19,855
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    One of those Harvard "computers" that did become a little bit known is Henrietta Swan Leavitt.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henrietta_Swan_Leavitt

    After much analysis of photographic plates over years she figured out a way to tell how far away galaxies are.

    Her data was used by Hubble to show that the universe is expanding.


  • @erco - Yes, I loved Hidden Figures!

    @Heater - Fastenating info!
    Whit+

    "We keep moving forward, opening new doors, and doing new things, because we're curious and curiosity keeps leading us down new paths." - Walt Disney
  • To go a little back to the original question.

    Women are great, and often get underestimated. I - personally - can look back at the line of my family and, gosh, it all depended on the women. If one would be missing I would not be here, today.

    There is some saying about Men always being children, so face it guys, we men have sometimes more in common with any 10-year old boy then with our female counterparts.

    It's not 'different upbringing', nor 'different chances'. It's different interests.

    So I ask the question "Are there Too Few Females in Robotics?"

    Gosh, I like @Amanda and her creations as much as you all do, or @Carol Hazlet ones. Just the two of them build more stuff as I even thought about building.

    But I am sort of unhappy with the general idea that all positions/jobs/occupations/hobbies/desires and dreams have to be filled by the equal number of people split up in equal parts by gender, race, number of children or number of felonies.

    There are differences, more men then women do robotics, and more women then men do Yoga. Sure. But:

    There is nothing wrong about it. It's OK!.

    Enjoy!

    Mike
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  • But I am sort of unhappy with the general idea that all positions/jobs/occupations/hobbies/desires and dreams have to be filled by the equal number of people split up in equal parts by gender, race, number of children or number of felonies.

    There are differences, more men then women do robotics, and more women then men do Yoga. Sure. But:
    Amen!
  • Much to its credit, the Parallax BoE-Bot name is not gender specific. Bo Derek and Bo Jackson could feel equally good assembling and programming one.
    "When you make a thing, a thing that is new, it is so complicated making it that it is bound to be ugly. But those that make it after you, they don’t have to worry about making it. And they can make it pretty, and so everybody can like it when others make it after you."

    - Pablo Picasso
  • msrobots,
    But I am sort of unhappy with the general idea that all positions/jobs/occupations/hobbies/desires and dreams have to be filled by the equal number of people split up in equal parts by gender, race, number of children or number of felonies.

    There are differences, more men then women do robotics, and more women then men do Yoga. Sure. But:
    Careful there. Recently Google fired James Damore for making such statements. Which became something of a scandal. https://www.cnet.com/au/news/fired-google-engineer-says-company-is-trying-to-smear-him-diversity-memo-james-davore/
  • eroco,
    ... the Parallax BoE-Bot name is not gender specific...
    That is good.

    What makes me chuckle is that "bot" might take on a different meaning in the UK. As in "Get you bot off the table".



  • Heater. wrote: »
    "Get you bot off the table".

    Possibly my wife's most often-uttered phrase.

    "When you make a thing, a thing that is new, it is so complicated making it that it is bound to be ugly. But those that make it after you, they don’t have to worry about making it. And they can make it pretty, and so everybody can like it when others make it after you."

    - Pablo Picasso
  • Gender equality: Pink girly robot fires machine gun just like boy bots do.



    Feminists may prefer that to FemiSapien's sashay.



    "When you make a thing, a thing that is new, it is so complicated making it that it is bound to be ugly. But those that make it after you, they don’t have to worry about making it. And they can make it pretty, and so everybody can like it when others make it after you."

    - Pablo Picasso
  • My daughter did like the colors I picked for printing out our second BOTTO robot:
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  • I sometimes wonder about the "gender gap", if I can call it that.

    Where do the interests, wants, desires, attitudes, abilities of boys and girls start to diverge? Assuming they start from an equal footing at birth. Ultimately leading to questions such as "Why Are Too Few Females in Robotics?" or the current scandal surrounding Google and James Damore.

    Then, walking into a Toys"R"Us store it hits you in the face.

    There is a very clear, and loud, demarcation between toys for boys and toys for girls. Everything in the girls section is in that sickly shade of vomit inducing, fluorescent, purpley pink. Not even a nice shade of pink.

    I don't particularly have a thing against purpley pink. But really, the demarcation between boys and girls is clearly there in Toys"R"Us. And targeted at a very young age.

    Any parents out there like to suggest at what age and how this gets programmed into us?






  • I may be a little different than a lot of women but I hate the new "princess colors" on everything. But it is not genetic,
    my grandgirls and great grandgirls all love it. One of my Grandgirls, who is in her 20's will only buy things with pink
    and/or purple in them! UGH! I am actually offended by it because the marketers are saying we know what you want
    more than you do! I like black and red myself.
    Carol Lynn Hazlett
    carolhaz391@gmail.com

    In the birthing of any machine there is that moment when it actually works. It is always fresh and astounding for me...............Red Whittaker

  • I like black and red myself.

    What's not to like?

    img_4106.jpg

    "When you make a thing, a thing that is new, it is so complicated making it that it is bound to be ugly. But those that make it after you, they don’t have to worry about making it. And they can make it pretty, and so everybody can like it when others make it after you."

    - Pablo Picasso
  • Rayman wrote: »
    My daughter did like the colors I picked for printing out our second BOTTO robot:

    Beautimous, Rayman! Are those pegs LEGO-compatible?

    "When you make a thing, a thing that is new, it is so complicated making it that it is bound to be ugly. But those that make it after you, they don’t have to worry about making it. And they can make it pretty, and so everybody can like it when others make it after you."

    - Pablo Picasso
  • Rayman,

    Don't get me wrong. I think your BOTTO has a wonderful pinky/puple color scheme.

  • Nibs are supposed to be Duplo compatible. They work OK. Maybe could be better, but good enough.

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  • The legs are actually "neon magenta". But, daughter thinks it's pink, so we're all happy.
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  • "neon magenta"

    That is a shade of pink is it not?
  • I have no idea... Didn't have much luck on Wikipedia...

    But, google helped me find that it is an official color of Korean girl band:

    https://twitter.com/JYPETWICE/status/779329700501913600

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  • Heater. wrote: »
    One of those Harvard "computers" that did become a little bit known is Henrietta Swan Leavitt.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henrietta_Swan_Leavitt

    After much analysis of photographic plates over years she figured out a way to tell how far away galaxies are.

    Her data was used by Hubble to show that the universe is expanding.
    I'm not trying to take this thread off-topic again, but I thought I'd point out a recent and excellent book on this topic: The Glass Universe by Dava Sobel. Modern astronomy and astrophysics owe a lot to the ladies of Harvard Observatory.

  • jones wrote: »
    Heater. wrote: »
    One of those Harvard "computers" that did become a little bit known is Henrietta Swan Leavitt.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henrietta_Swan_Leavitt

    After much analysis of photographic plates over years she figured out a way to tell how far away galaxies are.

    Her data was used by Hubble to show that the universe is expanding.
    I'm not trying to take this thread off-topic again, but I thought I'd point out a recent and excellent book on this topic: The Glass Universe by Dava Sobel. Modern astronomy and astrophysics owe a lot to the ladies of Harvard Observatory.

    Yup, that got mentioned about 20 posts ago.


    Infernal Machine
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