New forum: Adapt and Overcome

Oldbitcollector (Jeff) · 2010-08-07 09:22

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I really can't believe the level to which many have lowered themselves in the last 24 hours. I thought this was a community of extremely intelligent, DIY'ers. Parallax changes the forum software, a change that we all knew was in the works and people go bananas. Suddenly things aren't exactly where they were a few hours before and panic erupts.

If it weren't so serious it would be funny. It's like the guy who goes into the bookstore and asks the clerk where to find the self-help section.

Take some time to dig into the User CP section and play with the new options. The new search option is honestly a breath of fresh air. Your old PM's didn't disappear! They are still in the old forum software in the link provided in Announcements.

What are you guys going to do when Parallax releases the new Propeller chip or Scribber 2? Treat this the same way.

I'm sure those "extras" that you want will come along as I'm sure they are on the list, but further down after critical items are handled first.

It's just a forum guys. No one grabbed all the Props and BS2's off your workbench.

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OBC

Searider · 2010-08-07 11:17

Applause := True
Thank you OBC
Applause := False

KMyers · 2010-08-07 15:33

Amen, Brother...

We all got more important things to worry about!

Ken

Harley · 2010-08-07 15:45

Just my feelings.

[small rant]
However, it doesn't seem as 'friendly' as the old forum did. Makes me feel like I dialed into some other processor forum from years ago; cold, awkward.

[/small rant]

Heater. · 2010-08-08 04:34

OBC, I admire your attitude.

However I'm not sure we have lowered ourselves to far yet. There have been a lot of criticisms for sure and any kind of change to the wallpaper in the local bar will get the customers complaining. If you see what I mean. Thing is most of this seems to be valid comments about things that are now broken.

Oldbitcollector (Jeff) · 2010-08-08 15:58

This is my response to the changes here.

It's not finished, but you get the idea. (Adapt and Overcome)

http://www.propellerpowered.com/propellergaming

OBC

mctrivia · 2010-08-08 16:20

I am all for adapting. If it bugs me to much once it is stable I will write a bot to let me hack my view of the forum.

My only complaints is that some things were broken. And these complaints were not meant as criticism but to point it out to the powers that be(I.E. parallax) that they should look into fixing it. Not all things are obvious at first.

For example broken links to old forum posting would only be obvious if you were reading posts and clicked on the link that use to work and now doesn't.

Will there be complaints. Of course change always brings on complaints. People are 100 times more likely to take the time to make a complaint then to take the time to write down something they like better.

Chris_D · 2010-08-08 16:27

While I am as guilty as anyone for not wanting to "change", we all have to remember, we are guests here in these forums and we should respect those that provide it for us. A quick look around and it looks to me like all the features of the old forum are here, perhaps not active yet.

Also everyone should keep in mind that the people that post here are the true value of these forums. A very impressive, highly skilled, and for the most part very respectful group of people willing to help each other out. Let's not expend all this negative energy complaining about the looks of the forum when we all know the heart of it is still the same.

Chris

Dr_Acula · 2010-08-09 07:32

Re "New forum: Adapt and Overcome"

Indeed. Avatar working. Attachments working. As the Romans would say;

Veni Vidi Vici

(as an interesting historical footnote, when Julius Caesar landed in Britain and called out "Veni Vidi Vici", the Britons misheard him as calling them "weeny, weedy, and weaky", and immediately capitulated).

mctrivia · 2010-08-09 07:38

I guess he was right(for those who do not know latin - I came, I saw, I conquered)

LoopyByteloose · 2010-08-09 07:41

Adapt and Overcome? Or just suffer through it.
I keep wondering if the change was about a virus problem, out of control bandwidth, too much storage overhead, or the cost of the software skyrocketed?

I assume that Parallax didn't really want to do this, they had to.

So rather than Overcome, go with the flow.

BTW, I seem to have to log in many times now between postings. I wonder if there is a need for being timed out so often.

mctrivia · 2010-08-09 07:49

could be your browser. I am accessing this forum from a blackberry and 2 computers and non have timed out yet in 24 hours.

Oldbitcollector (Jeff) · 2010-08-09 08:21

See Gentlemen...

Things are already falling into place.

The next thing you know links will be good to go, and the forum will have options to select the theme/layout views. All we had to do is relax.

Improvise, Adapt and Overcome is a Marine motto. While I never served, I have many friends and family who have and their attitude has rubbed off a bit.

My own adaptation of the new games link is around 90% complete so if you're still hyperventilating, grab a Prop game and chill out.

(see "Games & Demos" in the .sig)

OBC

lardom · 2010-08-09 08:27

I have timed out a few times.
In the old forum there were times when I would press "SUBMIT" and my reply would be lost. Since I have to proof-read and rewrite to make things clear I've learned to copy my replies before I submit. (I want my avatar back.)

Oldbitcollector (Jeff) · 2010-08-09 08:32

Just go here and upload your Avatar. No biggie.

I had to resize mine a little. This software requires 120x120 images.
A couple quick squeezes with MSPAINT and you're in business.

OBC

LoopyByteloose · 2010-08-09 08:54

So we have avatars.
Do you like my new avatar, or do you want my dog back?

Maddie the Intern · 2010-08-09 09:21

@Loopy Byteloose:
I vote for the dog- however, your new avatar is very amusing.

I found out that you can pick an avatar and have a different picture for your profile picture. So possibly both pictures could live on in this new forum?

But if it comes down to it, the dog is a great avatar.

@potatohead- Happy Fun Ball makes me laugh everytime! I making a formal request to see it on this forum again. Please!

Maddie the Intern

potatohead · 2010-08-09 09:27

Well that's settled. I was just tossing it around with Whit as to whether or not I keep my late night Microsoft Paint session.

I'll leave it as the Profile image, because I can, and I'll go fetch the happy fun ball Avatar. (I like it too, and it's only 30K!)

Maddie the Intern · 2010-08-09 09:36

Haha, Happy Fun Ball makes Mondays so much better!

Thanks!

Maddie the Intern

trodoss · 2010-08-09 09:39

@OBC,
Like the "Games & Demos" section of PropellerPowered!
Looks like missing 10% includes things like "Turbulence", CardboardGuru's "Fantasia", Rayman's "Prop Chess", Hydra NES Pacman Emulator - (Darryl), pullmoll's emulators...

I notice you have a "Tools & Utilities" in your .sig ... so more to come?

--trodoss

Spiral_72 · 2010-08-09 09:45

Potatohead, I dunno where you found that, or what give you the idea to make it, but that's likely the best avatar know to man.

potatohead · 2010-08-09 10:03

Thanks. I am a sucker for simple animation. Always have been. Once in a while, you can see some great ones as part of a TV program production logo. The black and white one, done in the style of the avatar, where the little fish jumps up, and chomps is a great one to look for. It's only 10 frames or so, but it's awesome, and hand drawn. I should have captured it, but didn't. Had I done that, it would have probably been the avatar here.

This one came from another forum I frequent. The user tossed it up there, and I thought it was excellent, so I sent off a quick PM to ask to bring it here. They've since stopped. I don't know where it came from originally. The animation is great though. Who ever drew it has some skill. It's hard to convey motion like that. If you step through it, with a GIF editor, or something, you can see the transition frames are very well done, with lots of basic visual cues, perfectly executed. That's art to me.

Ding-Batty · 2010-08-09 11:31

potatohead said:

The black and white one, done in the style of the avatar, where the little fish jumps up, and chomps is a great one to look for. It's only 10 frames or so, but it's awesome, and hand drawn.

Might you be referring to the production company logo at the end of The Colbert Report? It has a tall bird standing on the edge of a pond; a small fish jumps from the pond, swallows the bird whole, and falls back into the pond. Offhand, I don't remember the name of the production company...

potatohead · 2010-08-09 11:39

Yes!! I had forgotten where I saw it. For a while it was on a PVR, and I stepped through it, really liking the style.

Thank you for remembering. And now everybody knows I've not watched Colbert in a while. (absolutely love that guy --saw a video clip of him contemplating the "most useless machine" recently. Hilarious!)

Yeah, I gotta capture that one someday, just because.

Ding-Batty wrote: »

potatohead said:
Might you be referring to the production company logo at the end of The Colbert Report? It has a tall bird standing on the edge of a pond; a small fish jumps from the pond, swallows the bird whole, and falls back into the pond. Offhand, I don't remember the name of the production company...

Whit · 2010-08-09 13:25

For those of you who have never seen it, here is the link for the Saturday Night Live skit commercial for the Happy Fun Ball.

http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/happy-fun-ball/229058/

It makes potatohead's avatar and signature line even funnier!

JasonDorie · 2010-08-09 19:32

But I fear change!

Especially nickels. Those things freak me out.

Being serious for a moment, I personally preferred the look and feel of the old site to this one, but not by orders of magnitude or anything. I think my biggest beef with it is learning a different interface, but that'll vanish pretty quickly.

Jason

TheGrue · 2010-08-09 20:44

I think the benefits outweigh the growing pains. Search works sooooo much better! I am not afraid of change. I am sure that Parallax will get this site going well.

Coming from the IT field, I understand the time it takes to transfer and/or convert large amounts of data like this forum. I would not presume to guess what this forum's size is, but I would probably scope this project out as 2-3 month conversion, with a month alone on just testing and sweeping bugs.

Parallax is nothing if not detailed. So I would imagine that Parallax is working on all the fine details of making this site work like or better than the previous forum! Knowing Parallax, it will be worth the wait [just like the Prop2]

WBA Consulting · 2010-08-10 00:35

Good thread OBC!

My initial decision was to stay away from the forums until some of the major issues were resolved because I was lost without the "view active threads" page (still am). I have peeked a bit to see how things are going and while I am very happy with how the new site works, I still see that fixes to some key issues are still in process. I've been looking forward to the change but was as unhappy as most with the "migration damage". I can easily adapt to the other annoyances (interface colors, page layout format, etc).

Once the links and attachments are fixed, I hope an equivalent to the active threads page surfaces. I loved the last 3 days of posts sorted by forum. The new posts in this one is too hard to sort through.

Kevin Wood · 2010-08-10 00:57

Loopy Byteloose wrote:

Do you like my new avatar, or do you want my dog back?

I think you should let your dog loose on that thing and look the other way.

Now a nice dim sum display, that would be good...

mpark · 2010-08-10 02:26

mctrivia wrote: »

I guess he was right(for those whoe do not know latin - I came, I saw, I concurred)

Conquered, not concurred! Proper spelling is important. What you wrote has almost the opposite meaning. Kind of funny, actually.

mctrivia · 2010-08-10 05:18

Wow that was bad. I really need to read over again when on my blackberry.

New forum: Adapt and Overcome

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