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"Aggressive Maneuvers for Autonomous Quadrotor Flight"

Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi)Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi) Posts: 23,514
edited 2010-05-29 03:48 in General Discussion
'Came across this YouTube link;

www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvRTALJp8DM&feature=player_embedded

'Pretty trick stuff!

-Phil

Comments

  • John AbshierJohn Abshier Posts: 1,116
    edited 2010-05-28 21:40
    Impressive, until I thought about the 20 camera system. Not too useful in the real world.

    John Abshier
  • hover1hover1 Posts: 1,929
    edited 2010-05-28 22:30
    The same link was post at the Quad/Hex copter today:

    ·http://forums.parallax.com/showthread.php?p=890157

    I had the same response as John. tongue.gif

    Jim

    P.S. Movements are very fluid and deliberate. I'll give them that much.
  • zoopydogsitzoopydogsit Posts: 174
    edited 2010-05-28 22:55
    Very impressive. I like the flying. I wonder how many takes they had to do to get those shots and whether they were the only attempts that worked!·Did you see the netting on the walls, it's clear it hasn't always gone to plan!

    The docking·was the most·interesting. I guess the dock is just a magnet to a metal plate on the copters bottom. It could be an electo-magnet for ease of docking and un-docking. The copter could awaken on the undocking.·Although a perment magnet would have it's advantages. An·electro-magnet could be the base of an inductive charge system to·a coil in the·bottom of the copter (a plate/core with a coil, to a diode bridge· to feed the charging circuit).·And I guess the copter could also undock by·applying current to·the coil in the·bottom of the quad copter to oppose the magnetic field, allowing it to weaken enough to drop off. Though I would not expect the inductive charging to be very efficient (a weak transformer with an airgap).

    From a practical application you could have one/more perched oustside your house (under the eves) or building on an inductive docking charge point awaiting instructions. Could be a useful adaption for personal/building security, ie. your·home security system·wants to look at the number plate of the car parked suspiciously outside your house, it sends the quad copter. Likewise, should your home security system detect an event that is not picked up on camera, likewise, out would go the quad copter for a patrol of the area, sending back useful video (IR ;-) and return to it's dock to keep it's charge. Could be very useful to inspect the roof of the house (a good task for an autonomous device that could also factor wind and air movement) after a storm/noise from the roof. For the small power capacity and short run time then this would be a good application for the quad copters. Though the limitation would be lack of operation during gusty winds. I guess the security system would need to be tied to the weather station on the roof. Though this opens to a vulnerability in attack, the attackers quad copter could spin the anonometer to indicate gusty wind to indicate a high risk for flying and thus not release the copter. Then again, they could just wait for a windy day.....

    Previously I'd imagined the other practical application would be for a soldier who needed to see what was on the other side of a wall/building/etc. They·would have one in a special quick release pouch to launch along the ground and then up so not to give away their position, before then doin recon on the target. But the small power capacity, short run time and long charge time would have made them less practical (probably still useful). I wonder how windy it is in Afganistan?

    I've bought some stuff for building one, just haven't had the time to give it justice.
  • hover1hover1 Posts: 1,929
    edited 2010-05-28 23:02
    According to the video, the docking was via velcro. Now do they enough energy to break the bond of velcro to return to flight? That's suspect.
    Jim
    zoopydogsit said...



    The docking·was the most·interesting. I guess the dock is just a magnet to a metal plate on the copters bottom.

  • hover1hover1 Posts: 1,929
    edited 2010-05-28 23:08
    Military/Police style craft have been around for a while.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikorsky_Cypher
    I happen to like this on because I used to live 10 miles from Sikorsky and I like H. G. Wells.tongue.gif
    Jim
    zoopydogsit said...



    Previously I'd imagined the other practical application would be for a soldier who needed to see what was on the other side of a wall/building/etc. They·would have one in a special quick release pouch to launch along the ground and then up so not to give away their position, before then doin recon on the target. But the small power capacity, short run time and long charge time would have made them less practical (probably still useful). I wonder how windy it is in Afganistan?



  • ercoerco Posts: 20,261
    edited 2010-05-29 03:48
    THAT is PID control at its finest. Rock-solid stops and precise, accurate, repeatable maneuvers. Them PA boys ain't just PID-lin' around. Very impressive control.

    That netting is standard fare at indoor model airplane meets for high-powered planes. There are are expert flyers who are ALMOST as precise as this computer control system with a big fast-moving airplane that doesn't have the luxury of stopping & hovering !

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