How do I ANTI-PATENT my inventions? (Public Domain? ETC)
VIRAND
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Until recently I didn't know how to patent.
Now I know it costs about $1000 per invention if you go to the USPTO and do it yourself,
But twice that , plus ... decimal orders of magnitude if you use a patent attorney.
I would like to know how to:
-Not need $1000 per invention to keep my right to use it.(*)
-Register my inventions so that Trolls can't legitimately patent them due to certainty of Prior Art.
-Invalidate recent patents for which I have been verifiably using Working Machines for longer than a patent term.
-(*)GUARANTEE MY RIGHT AND FREEDOM TO MAKE MY OWN INVENTIONS EVEN IF EVERYONE ELSE MAY
ALSO MAKE, USE, SELL THEM, WITHOUT WASTING $1000 APIECE TO PRE-EMPT TROLLS.
-It is usually my intention to share inventions, Unless they are the kind which some groups in society
at least Pretend to find morally objectionable enough to ban due to being too much fun, or inventions that
would be too hazardous to try them at home.
Why does the Philips PWM-LED patent still stand if it's been challenged? (AND WHAT WILL BUST IT?)
Why not Prior Art?
I have LOTS of prior art and dated published electronics books with LED PWM circuits.
I have lots of those circuits still working.
I have LED multivibrators I made as a child with cardboard circuit boards and leads twisted together for "light shows".
I have 25 year old blinking lights, including some using light-blinking chips such as the OBSOLETE LM3909 LED FLASHER.
and electronic circuit cookbooks with whole chapters on PWM from 1970 and 1980, and transistor books and
TTL logic datasheet books, and dated schematics in books using LM555s to blink or dim LEDs,
and even circuits making red-orange-yellow-green with a bicolor LED.
I have some of the first (SiliconCarbide) blue and RGB LED's from around 1990.
The Question Is: How do I declare inventions without patenting them or wasting money,
and also prevent them from being patented?
Can I file a provisional patent or patent application and let it expire?
OR CAN TROLLS PAY MY FEES TO ADVERSE POSSESS THOSE PATENTS?
(USPTO says letting a patent pending expire may forfeit my patent rights,
but does that mean TO SOMEONE ELSE?)
And what do I do about Trolls with New Patents if they see my Old Working Machines?
If I have invention plans, photos, drawings, and machines, and maybe videos of the machines working...
what else do I need?
THIS (3D Graphics Projector with 256 LEDs) IS PRIOR ART, which was finished before the LED-PWM patent filing date:
ultravires.net/cube4web.WMV
Due to lack of interest, it has not advanced beyond this zero-budget prototype, and published as "Public Domain".
It has more potential than the Virtuality ball because "cube" displays moving 3D images. That surprised me because
BY COINCIDENCE, both their ball and this "cube" have an airplane demo image, but their airplane doesn't "fly".
Laugh at the Free Junk. It could and should look like and BE what appeared in the movie PAYCHECK years later.
Post Edited (VIRAND) : 10/5/2009 7:31:32 AM GMT
Now I know it costs about $1000 per invention if you go to the USPTO and do it yourself,
But twice that , plus ... decimal orders of magnitude if you use a patent attorney.
I would like to know how to:
-Not need $1000 per invention to keep my right to use it.(*)
-Register my inventions so that Trolls can't legitimately patent them due to certainty of Prior Art.
-Invalidate recent patents for which I have been verifiably using Working Machines for longer than a patent term.
-(*)GUARANTEE MY RIGHT AND FREEDOM TO MAKE MY OWN INVENTIONS EVEN IF EVERYONE ELSE MAY
ALSO MAKE, USE, SELL THEM, WITHOUT WASTING $1000 APIECE TO PRE-EMPT TROLLS.
-It is usually my intention to share inventions, Unless they are the kind which some groups in society
at least Pretend to find morally objectionable enough to ban due to being too much fun, or inventions that
would be too hazardous to try them at home.
Why does the Philips PWM-LED patent still stand if it's been challenged? (AND WHAT WILL BUST IT?)
Why not Prior Art?
I have LOTS of prior art and dated published electronics books with LED PWM circuits.
I have lots of those circuits still working.
I have LED multivibrators I made as a child with cardboard circuit boards and leads twisted together for "light shows".
I have 25 year old blinking lights, including some using light-blinking chips such as the OBSOLETE LM3909 LED FLASHER.
and electronic circuit cookbooks with whole chapters on PWM from 1970 and 1980, and transistor books and
TTL logic datasheet books, and dated schematics in books using LM555s to blink or dim LEDs,
and even circuits making red-orange-yellow-green with a bicolor LED.
I have some of the first (SiliconCarbide) blue and RGB LED's from around 1990.
The Question Is: How do I declare inventions without patenting them or wasting money,
and also prevent them from being patented?
Can I file a provisional patent or patent application and let it expire?
OR CAN TROLLS PAY MY FEES TO ADVERSE POSSESS THOSE PATENTS?
(USPTO says letting a patent pending expire may forfeit my patent rights,
but does that mean TO SOMEONE ELSE?)
And what do I do about Trolls with New Patents if they see my Old Working Machines?
If I have invention plans, photos, drawings, and machines, and maybe videos of the machines working...
what else do I need?
THIS (3D Graphics Projector with 256 LEDs) IS PRIOR ART, which was finished before the LED-PWM patent filing date:
ultravires.net/cube4web.WMV
Due to lack of interest, it has not advanced beyond this zero-budget prototype, and published as "Public Domain".
It has more potential than the Virtuality ball because "cube" displays moving 3D images. That surprised me because
BY COINCIDENCE, both their ball and this "cube" have an airplane demo image, but their airplane doesn't "fly".
Laugh at the Free Junk. It could and should look like and BE what appeared in the movie PAYCHECK years later.
Post Edited (VIRAND) : 10/5/2009 7:31:32 AM GMT
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I could mail myself an unsealed envelope, have it dated by the post office. Then years later put whatever I wanted into it and seal it then.
Plus it is easy to open a sealed envelope and re-seal it.
The best way is to have a log book of people that you've shown the invention to. With name, address, date and signature. This is why it is so funny that people do not want to tell anyone about their invention. If you don't tell anyone, you have no way to prove that you had the idea. Of course you don't want to make it public either, but that is why you have them sign your log book. So they cannot say that they thought of it before you.
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Post Edited (Mike Green) : 10/5/2009 2:37:29 PM GMT
You might also want to explore whether patent rights and open source can co-exist.
I suppose the other alternative is to find a couple of witnesses and have them sign a document stating they have seen your work on such and such a date.
It might be cheaper to patent an idea in another country but there are pros and cons to this idea.
It is a question to ask a lawyer but lawyers also get people in trouble.
Post Edited (Chuckz) : 10/5/2009 3:44:59 PM GMT
I think this would be excellent.
Thats kinda what instructables or the likeness is...
Heck this forum kinda fills that task, combine that with youtube, spread your links...
A number of companies will patent an idea but will license the patent for free. The patent exists for defense only.
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Whichever way,
I need to reserve my own rights to use, make, and sell my inventions without "buying" my own rights.
I don't care much if other people also have those rights as long as I don't have to pay to keep them.
Creative powers are greater than destructive ones. Craft overcomes theft.
And false patent claims are severely worse theft than infringement.
It is like RIAA suing kids severely while AHRA law specifically permits ALL personal use sound recordings as noninfringing.
so long as so much stuff is made in places like China, you don't have any patent rights - at least insofar as manufacturing processes go. Chances are, your patent file becomes merely a "how to" pamphlet for somebody to use your idea free of charge. Mao thanks you. And so do all the billionaire offspring of Sammy Walton.
Capitalist exploitation of communist labor - now there's a concept I wish I'd gotten the patent for!
Some things are better protected by copyright and by trademark. Both are cheaper alternatives and just as good when done appropriately.
Also, patents on a global basis are complex. From what I understand, to gain a complete global patent, one must start the application process in Japan as the Japanese will not recognize items that are first patented elsewhere.
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Post Edited (Loopy Byteloose) : 10/7/2009 3:19:47 PM GMT