PROJECT: MYTHIC FLIGHT (v0.9) and Remix (v1.1)

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• trodoss Posts: 577

  2008-11-25 15:16 edited 2008-11-25 15:16

  Screenshot (taken from Gear) of what gameplay looks like, and the level bosses.
  
  [noparse][[/noparse]Edit:] Updated to include the 4-color graphics version screenshots.
  
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• Oldbitcollector (Jeff) Posts: 8,091

  2008-11-25 15:36 edited 2008-11-25 15:36

  This looks great! I'm looking forward to having some time to fool with it later.
  
  Can you tell me a little more about how you got that screen shot from Gears?
  I've never worked with Gears, just catching bits and pieces in various threads.
  
  Also, How did you create your MAP data? Was this by hand or did you use some
  special conversion software to convert a graphic?
  
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• trodoss Posts: 577

  2008-11-25 16:00 edited 2008-11-25 16:00

  Oldbitcollector said...
  
  Can you tell me a little more about how you got that screen shot from Gears?
  I've never worked with Gears, just catching bits and pieces in various threads.

  I used the 'Television' plugin for Gear.·If you wanted to try this, here are roughly the steps requried:
  When you select the .binary you wish to execute, and it opens a window for the binary (it has a cog on the lefthand pane) you· will see an additional menu that has 'Open Plugin'.· From there, select the "Television.xml" plugin, and then execute the "Run" function.· It will (slowly) start to render the image on the screen.· From there, I did a simple screen capture, and then pasted it into Gimp from the clipboard.· There was another screen capture that was posted· some time ago on the forums that I was going to look up to see how it works.· I vaguely remember it being used on another Hydra game (maybe JT Racer?)
  [noparse][[/noparse]Edit:] if you do use Gear, and are not using the 'standard' pins for video output (as in the case of the Hydra), you will need to modify the Television.xml to use the correct pins to get·this to work.· The "plugin" is written in C#, and is imbedded into the XML document.
  

  Also, How did you create your MAP data? Was this by hand or did you use some special conversion software to convert a graphic? OBC

  Right now, yes, by hand.· I am planning on writing a "quick and dirty" level editor though.· I could use Mappy, but based on the way I am doing it right now (each 'pattern' is a 1x20 character vertical 'slice' that can be repeated in a pattern to make the screen/level), it would be challenging.· If you think you would find this at all useful in your own project I can certianly make it "user friendly."
  
  
  Post Edited (trodoss) : 11/25/2008 4:05:35 PM GMT
• JT Cook Posts: 487

  2008-11-25 19:32 edited 2008-11-25 19:32

  I actually made my own a while back (I think it was before Gear). The idea was that I wanted a 1:1 pixel representation of what was thrown on the TV screen. What I did was have a "fake" TV driver that sat along with the real TV driver. Then when I wanted to grab a screen shot, I would stop the real TV driver, and invoke the fake TV driver which sent the pixel data over the serial link (instead of rendering the TV signal). Then I would shut down the fake TV driver and start up the real one. That way I can take a screen shot at any point the program. I also had a client program sitting on the PC hooked up to the Hydra through serial (connected the same way of when you want to reprogram the hardware) and it just basically waited for pixel data.
  
  http://forums.parallax.com/showthread.php?p=657569
  
  I haven't looked at the AIGeneric driver (and probably won't have time to) but I am sure with a little work the same thing could be added to it.
• trodoss Posts: 577

  2008-11-25 19:46 edited 2008-11-25 19:46

  @JT Cook,
  
  Thanks! I will take a look at your screen capture and see what it might take to make it work the same.
• Oldbitcollector (Jeff) Posts: 8,091

  2008-11-25 19:48 edited 2008-11-25 19:48

  Just got a chance to run this.. Nice side scroller!
  I'm looking forward to seeing more of this...
  
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• Baggers Posts: 3,019

  2008-11-25 19:57 edited 2008-11-25 19:57

  trodoss, looking cool so far [noparse]:)[/noparse]
  great little animated character too.
  
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• trodoss Posts: 577

  2008-11-26 19:51 edited 2008-11-26 19:51

  @Baggers
  Thanks! Working with single color graphics has been interesting. Hopefully it will turn out well (or could always be re-written later using the PropGFX if it doesn't)
• Baggers Posts: 3,019

  2008-11-26 20:12 edited 2008-11-26 20:12

  yeah [noparse];)[/noparse] ya never know [noparse]:)[/noparse] looks like it'll turn out well the way it's going at the moment though.
  if it works out well, you could do always do a sequel on PropGFX lol
  
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• Parallel Universe Posts: 46

  2008-11-27 00:14 edited 2008-11-27 00:14

  Nice!
  I haven't used AIGeneric, but is it possible to set the background to blue? If you wanted to, you could try for a starfield effect if you need to stick with black.
  
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• trodoss Posts: 577

  2008-11-28 06:28 edited 2008-11-28 06:28

  @Parallel Universe
  Thanks, and yes, technically I could 'alter' AIGeneric further and change the background color, but right now I will probably stick with black. I have done the graphics so far with the backgound color 'black' in mind. Part of it is that it is the kind of look that some of the games it is being based on uses (think something like "Kid Icarus" for the NES). The starfield though is a good idea! I might expirament with that if I can spare the resources.
  
  At some point I might re-write (or make a sequel, as Baggers mentioned) in higher resolution, use 4-color sprites, and use a more "smooth" (pixel-perfect) style of scrolling--taking advantage of additional resources (like the PropGFX, or the Hydra Xtreme SRAM expansion).
• Parallel Universe Posts: 46

  2008-11-29 22:13 edited 2008-11-29 22:13

  It just took me a second to understand the clouds and the bird with the black background. The bird looks really nice, by the way.
  
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• trodoss Posts: 577

  2008-12-02 05:05 edited 2008-12-02 05:05

  I uploaded·a minor update.··It now uses·data created by a simple command-line·level generator (MapGenerator).· [noparse][[/noparse]Edit:] This·has been posted at the top of the thread.··I am in the process of working out the enemy handling (and collision) code.· It·should be actually "playable" soon [noparse]:)[/noparse]
  
  Attached is a more recent screenshot.
  
  --trodoss
  
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• Baggers Posts: 3,019

  2008-12-02 08:28 edited 2008-12-02 08:28

  looks cool trodoss, will download later when I have some time and have a real look [noparse]:)[/noparse]
  
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• Oldbitcollector (Jeff) Posts: 8,091

  2008-12-02 19:18 edited 2008-12-02 19:18

  Looking forward to looking this over later myself.
  
  I love the map creator! More tools to make toys!
  
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• trodoss Posts: 577

  2008-12-05 18:55 edited 2008-12-05 18:55

  I have updated both the MythicFlight code (now v0.3) and the MapGenerator (v0.2).· I had hoped to have this 'fully playable,' however I have been busy.· I thought though that I would post what I had so at least I would feel like I made progress
  
  The change/update is the inclusion of the enemy handling and the start of the collision detection.· The main character can't die (that is good, right?) but can 'shoot' and can hit the random enemies in the level right now.
  
  [noparse][[/noparse]Ediit:] To fire, use the "B" button on the gamepad.· Forgot to mention that before [noparse];)[/noparse]· "A" may be a sort of 'power attack' (requiring the pickup of item(s) -- haven't gotten there yet for sure [noparse];)[/noparse]
  
  Once I get it fully working I will likely 'overhaul' what is there, to work out better timing (and optimizations).· It is 'choppy' right now because I am using 'WAITCNT'·(instead of 'WAITVID'·and counters to have faster/slower movement on certian elements).· So, defininately more work to do.
  
  [noparse][[/noparse]Edit:] Also, there are odd little buggy quirks (like the arrow 'wrapping around,' and some of the boundary checks) that I know about, but have not yet addressed.· Just more to work on [noparse];)[/noparse]·
  
  *[noparse][[/noparse]On another note...] Daily Deal the past few days have been tempting (yesterday -- ProtoBoard $17 US, and now PPDB $118 US·+ free shipping weekend...)· I wonder if they will put the Hydra on the Daily Deal before the "ship by Christmas" cut-off [noparse];)[/noparse]
  
  Post Edited (trodoss) : 12/5/2008 8:58:49 PM GMT
• Oldbitcollector (Jeff) Posts: 8,091

  2008-12-06 03:29 edited 2008-12-06 03:29

  The update works great!
  
  I've placed SPYDRIVER on hold until I get my Christmas Card done, then I'll jump back in and join the game fun!
  
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• trodoss Posts: 577

  2008-12-08 16:23 edited 2008-12-08 16:23

  @OBC,
  Thanks! I am hoping to have it finished before the first of the year, so I think I have my work cut out for me.
• Bamse Posts: 561

  2008-12-10 03:14 edited 2008-12-10 03:14

  I think you are up to a great start...
  
  Looking forward to play the finished game...
  
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• trodoss Posts: 577

  2008-12-19 17:01 edited 2008-12-19 17:01

  @Bamse
  Thanks!
  
  I was getting ready to clean up a few things and post an update, but my mini LCD monitor died before I could test my last few changes. I hope to have the changes tested and uploaded so that everyone can play it within the next few days (barring any further technical difficulties).
  
  I have the game now loading the levels, and the player can actually get killed (boo!). One of the things I would like to do is add sound, so I will be investigating HDMF and/or HSS to see what I can get working. It all depends on how much extra I can 'cram' in (trying to stay < 32k for now).
• Oldbitcollector (Jeff) Posts: 8,091

  2008-12-20 16:51 edited 2008-12-20 16:51

  Time to add this to my software index..
  Is this game a clone or based on another game?
  
  Looks great... (and needs a wimp mode.. [noparse]:)[/noparse]
  
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• trodoss Posts: 577

  2008-12-22 04:12 edited 2008-12-22 04:12

  Finally got a 'replacement' TV (thank goodness for that switch to 'digital' format in the US--made it·conveniently inexpensive!)·so I should be able to get a 'better' version posted soon.· Still no sound, though I have been expiramenting with HSS a little bit.
  
  @OBC,
  
  Technically not based on any one game, but anything in the 'side scrolling' genre would be pretty close.· Parts of Kid Icarus (NES) or maybe Legendary Wing would be an influence graphics-wise.
• trodoss Posts: 577

  2008-12-24 16:57 edited 2008-12-24 16:57

  Hello!
  
  I finally got around to posting an updated version. The post at the top of the thread has the latest versions of the game and the map generator.· It should be a little more 'complete' than the last version.·I am working on the 'boss' logic (so they don't just stay in one place··like they are doing right now), and then·I will add the auto level advancing/music.· Once I get that done, I am going to go back and do a little optimization and work on timing.· Should be doable, right?
  
  I also updated the mapgenerator (which now has the start of the 'boss' definitions), and can generate 'screens' (non-level background data).
  
  Post Edited (trodoss) : 12/24/2008 8:16:34 PM GMT
• trodoss Posts: 577

  2009-01-19 22:53 edited 2009-01-19 22:53

  Just a quick note:
  
  I got sidetracked by investigating incorporating music/SFX, and studying Bamse's tutorials on graphics, but am still working on the project.
  
  I have made progress on 'boss' logic, and looked at addressing some of the nagging timing issues that are in the game (arrows are faster; enemies are slower). I hope to have a post-worthy update soon.
• Baggers Posts: 3,019

  2009-01-20 08:12 edited 2009-01-20 08:12

  Thanks for the update trodoss, [noparse]:D[/noparse] I look forward to the update.
  
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• trodoss Posts: 577

  2009-01-22 16:41 edited 2009-01-22 16:41

  Just posted the updated code (see first post in the thread). It now has 5 levels to play through (4 finished, 1 in-progress but playable).· It is still (by no means) perfect, but should be at least be better than before.·
  
  I had thought that timing was what was needed for things, but after a bit of playtesting...found that wat was *really* needed was to be able to shoot more than one arrow at once [noparse];)[/noparse]· If it was frustrating me, it would surely frustrate everyone else.· And, the 'target' area to hit an enemy increaed, because if it looks like it should hit them it should hit, right?··Also, making the levels slightly less difficult seemed necessary.
  
  I have been working on adding sound/music, but took it out for now so that a playable version could be posted (took out my odd expiramenting).
  
  I am contemplating re-writing the display driver now, so that I can define foreground and background per character and change the resolution a bit now that I understand that part a little better. However, that may wait for another project [noparse];)[/noparse]
  
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• trodoss Posts: 577

  2009-01-22 19:47 edited 2009-01-22 19:47

  I forgot to mention that I updated the MapGenerator (0.4) as well. Now you can include boss images and give them specific movement patterns. Sort of fun to play with [noparse];)[/noparse]
  
  Right now bosses do not 'shoot' anything at you, but I may change it so that they do--or at least do something else. Just chasing them around the screen and shooting them gets old fast.
  
  Let me know if you have any suggestions.
• trodoss Posts: 577

  2009-06-15 23:03 edited 2009-06-15 23:03

  Minor update:
  
  Mythic Flight
  Version 0.5b
  - Minor update: added comboKeyboard, so keyboard now supported
  
  The post at the beginning of the thread has the updated code.
  
  [noparse][[/noparse]Edit:] Keyboard mapping:
  Enter = SELECT
  Space = Fire (B)
  Arrow Keys = Move
  
  Post Edited (trodoss) : 6/16/2009 2:26:00 AM GMT
• trodoss Posts: 577

  2009-06-19 17:50 edited 2009-06-19 17:50

  Another minor update:
  
  Version 0.6
  - added sound driver MythicFlight_Music, and audio pin configuration
  - adjusted level 1.1 to make it more playable
  
  The sound engine was originally HSS, but I wanted to make it so that it could be edited in a text editor, so I opted for a very simple (crude actually) music engine that can can use RTTTL format in the MapGenerator application. The goal was to have a format that it can be edited by hand (so no additional software would be required). Since I coded it in a few hours it is *definately* in need of refinement. I have several bugs/refinements to sort out just with the sound engine. Right now has that 'plinky' sort of sound that reminds me of old 'PC Speaker' music.
  
  Also, I went back and adjusted the first level (level 1.1), as I have heard several times that it started off far too hard (you had to immediately move the character down, or would 'bump' into the first cloud).
• trodoss Posts: 577

  2009-06-23 23:10 edited 2009-06-23 23:10

  minor update:
  
  Version 0.7
  - added 'options' menu to change lives/starting level
  - corrected sound issues (octave/notes)
  
  I may add additional "options" on the option menu, but will depend on how much free RAM/stack is left when all of the levels and music are present.