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ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
edited 2003-11-04 16:35 in General Discussion
i have Broken I/O pin 7 on my Bs2 what do i do for repairs? will parallax
fix it? thanks for any help Gary D

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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2003-11-03 19:22
    Do i Unsolder the broken pin first or would that put too much heat on the
    Bs2. i have a desoldering braid.

    , thanks Gary D


    At 02:24 PM 11/3/2003 -0500, you wrote:
    >I did the same thing, Gary!
    >
    >I smashed an old 7700 series chip and retrieved a pin.
    >Carefully soldering the IC pin to the BS-2 revived it
    >nicely. If you have some 4% silver solder available,
    >use it for the added strength.
    >
    >Clamp the stamp in a vice for support, and do your
    >soldering as quickly as possible.
    >
    >John
    >
    >
    Original Message
    >From: "Gary Denison" <gdii@c...>
    >To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    >Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 2:07 PM
    >Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] broken stamp I/O pin
    >
    >
    > > i have Broken I/O pin 7 on my Bs2 what do i do for repairs? will parallax
    > > fix it? thanks for any help Gary D
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2003-11-03 19:24
    I did the same thing, Gary!

    I smashed an old 7700 series chip and retrieved a pin.
    Carefully soldering the IC pin to the BS-2 revived it
    nicely. If you have some 4% silver solder available,
    use it for the added strength.

    Clamp the stamp in a vice for support, and do your
    soldering as quickly as possible.

    John

    Original Message
    From: "Gary Denison" <gdii@c...>
    To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 2:07 PM
    Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] broken stamp I/O pin


    > i have Broken I/O pin 7 on my Bs2 what do i do for repairs? will parallax
    > fix it? thanks for any help Gary D
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2003-11-03 19:55
    Gary,

    I removed the old pin first.
    Note that the pins are attached to both sides of the
    circuit board. Unsolder one side first; allow the stamp
    to cool then do the other side. When you solder the
    new/old IC pin on, make sure that both sides are attached.
    Solder one side, cool it, and then the other.

    For desoldering, I used an Edsyn "solder sucker", but I
    don't see why you couldn't use light guage braid if you
    work quickly.

    I relegated the fixed stamp to a permananent use where I
    wouldn't be moving it in and out of a socket all the time.
    I tried this as a last resort, and was willing to accept failure!
    I didn't have a backup Stamp at the time.

    John

    Original Message
    From: "Gary Denison" <gdii@c...>
    To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 2:22 PM
    Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] broken stamp I/O pin


    > Do i Unsolder the broken pin first or would that put too much heat on the
    > Bs2. i have a desoldering braid.
    >
    > , thanks Gary D
    >
    >
    > At 02:24 PM 11/3/2003 -0500, you wrote:
    > >I did the same thing, Gary!
    > >
    > >I smashed an old 7700 series chip and retrieved a pin.
    > >Carefully soldering the IC pin to the BS-2 revived it
    > >nicely. If you have some 4% silver solder available,
    > >use it for the added strength.
    > >
    > >Clamp the stamp in a vice for support, and do your
    > >soldering as quickly as possible.
    > >
    > >John
    > >
    > >
    Original Message
    > >From: "Gary Denison" <gdii@c...>
    > >To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    > >Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 2:07 PM
    > >Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] broken stamp I/O pin
    > >
    > >
    > > > i have Broken I/O pin 7 on my Bs2 what do i do for repairs? will
    parallax
    > > > fix it? thanks for any help Gary D
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2003-11-03 20:19
    For future protection why not just use a wire-wrap socket?
    Plug the stamp into the wire-wrap socket, then use the
    wire-wrap socket piggy-back style into whatever suits your
    needs.... (SBB) solderless bread board, existing socket, etc.
    When you are ready for a more permanent solution, unplug the
    stamp from the wire-wrap socket and plug it in directly.

    -Beau Schwabe


    >Gary,
    >
    >I removed the old pin first.
    >Note that the pins are attached to both sides of the
    >circuit board. Unsolder one side first; allow the stamp
    >to cool then do the other side. When you solder the
    >new/old IC pin on, make sure that both sides are attached.
    >Solder one side, cool it, and then the other.
    >
    >For desoldering, I used an Edsyn "solder sucker", but I
    >don't see why you couldn't use light guage braid if you
    >work quickly.
    >
    >I relegated the fixed stamp to a permananent use where I
    >wouldn't be moving it in and out of a socket all the time.
    >I tried this as a last resort, and was willing to accept failure!
    >I didn't have a backup Stamp at the time.
    >
    >John
    >
    >
    Original Message
    >From: "Gary Denison" <gdii@c...>
    >To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    >Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 2:22 PM
    >Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] broken stamp I/O pin
    >
    >
    > > Do i Unsolder the broken pin first or would that put too much heat on the
    > > Bs2. i have a desoldering braid.
    > >
    > > , thanks Gary D
    > >
    > >
    > > At 02:24 PM 11/3/2003 -0500, you wrote:
    > > >I did the same thing, Gary!
    > > >
    > > >I smashed an old 7700 series chip and retrieved a pin.
    > > >Carefully soldering the IC pin to the BS-2 revived it
    > > >nicely. If you have some 4% silver solder available,
    > > >use it for the added strength.
    > > >
    > > >Clamp the stamp in a vice for support, and do your
    > > >soldering as quickly as possible.
    > > >
    > > >John
    > > >
    > > >
    Original Message
    > > >From: "Gary Denison" <gdii@c...>
    > > >To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    > > >Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 2:07 PM
    > > >Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] broken stamp I/O pin
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > > i have Broken I/O pin 7 on my Bs2 what do i do for repairs? will
    >parallax
    > > > > fix it? thanks for any help Gary D
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2003-11-03 21:30
    --- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, Gary Denison <gdii@c...> wrote:
    > i have Broken I/O pin 7 on my Bs2 what do i do for repairs? will
    parallax
    > fix it? thanks for any help Gary D



    Depending on how is it broken, you could use a chip carrier or chip
    socket. stick a resistor lead in the matching socket and then stick
    the Stamp in. then solder the lead to the stamp.

    that way, all the ruture abuse will be on the chips socket.

    Dave
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2003-11-03 22:29
    At 09:30 PM 11/3/03 +0000, you wrote:
    >--- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, Gary Denison <gdii@c...> wrote:
    > > i have Broken I/O pin 7 on my Bs2 what do i do for repairs? will
    >parallax
    > > fix it? thanks for any help Gary D
    >
    >
    >
    >Depending on how is it broken, you could use a chip carrier or chip
    >socket. stick a resistor lead in the matching socket and then stick
    >the Stamp in. then solder the lead to the stamp.
    >
    >that way, all the ruture abuse will be on the chips socket.
    >
    >Dave

    Dave,
    I think we're on the same wavelength here. I had mentioned
    the use of a wire-wrap socket primarily for the length (cut
    as desired) and durability of the 'pins' relative to just a
    standard IC socket. Forget for the moment that you can
    wire-wrap to the socket and just use it as a durable conduit
    for the Stamp.

    -Beau Schwabe
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2003-11-04 02:30
    What about a ZIF socket? I hope I'm thinking of the right thing... Zero
    Input Force I think is what it stands for!

    It has the little lever on the side that will clamp it down. Used in
    programmers mostly (at least as far as I've seen it!

    sb

    Original Message
    From: Beau Schwabe [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=j4C0m40WLldg3AtFNrEiAkPUL6eMZzEg-kA14sggAjAHp5WVfNn-ho9HDypfX3Q7yFJgRFTia0hc-6mpsj4tE98]bschwabe@a...[/url
    Sent: November 3, 2003 12:19 PM
    To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] broken stamp I/O pin


    For future protection why not just use a wire-wrap socket?
    Plug the stamp into the wire-wrap socket, then use the wire-wrap socket
    piggy-back style into whatever suits your needs.... (SBB) solderless bread
    board, existing socket, etc. When you are ready for a more permanent
    solution, unplug the stamp from the wire-wrap socket and plug it in
    directly.

    -Beau Schwabe


    >Gary,
    >
    >I removed the old pin first.
    >Note that the pins are attached to both sides of the
    >circuit board. Unsolder one side first; allow the stamp
    >to cool then do the other side. When you solder the
    >new/old IC pin on, make sure that both sides are attached. Solder one
    >side, cool it, and then the other.
    >
    >For desoldering, I used an Edsyn "solder sucker", but I
    >don't see why you couldn't use light guage braid if you
    >work quickly.
    >
    >I relegated the fixed stamp to a permananent use where I wouldn't be
    >moving it in and out of a socket all the time. I tried this as a last
    >resort, and was willing to accept failure! I didn't have a backup Stamp
    >at the time.
    >
    >John
    >
    >
    Original Message
    >From: "Gary Denison" <gdii@c...>
    >To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    >Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 2:22 PM
    >Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] broken stamp I/O pin
    >
    >
    > > Do i Unsolder the broken pin first or would that put too much heat
    > > on the Bs2. i have a desoldering braid.
    > >
    > > , thanks Gary D
    > >
    > >
    > > At 02:24 PM 11/3/2003 -0500, you wrote:
    > > >I did the same thing, Gary!
    > > >
    > > >I smashed an old 7700 series chip and retrieved a pin. Carefully
    > > >soldering the IC pin to the BS-2 revived it nicely. If you have
    > > >some 4% silver solder available, use it for the added strength.
    > > >
    > > >Clamp the stamp in a vice for support, and do your soldering as
    > > >quickly as possible.
    > > >
    > > >John
    > > >
    > > >
    Original Message
    > > >From: "Gary Denison" <gdii@c...>
    > > >To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    > > >Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 2:07 PM
    > > >Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] broken stamp I/O pin
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > > i have Broken I/O pin 7 on my Bs2 what do i do for repairs? will
    >parallax
    > > > > fix it? thanks for any help Gary D



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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2003-11-04 02:40
    yeah, those work great. I think they're pretty expensive new, but I got
    some at the local junk shop for about a buck a piece.

    d...

    >
    Original Message
    > From: Brady,Steven [noparse]/noparse]PYR] [noparse][[/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=zaISOxOG-P80adPNervKDZbLFAuruEhu3G11xWjWeOaAuhq8vJQZOv1_duYqbbUAzmAdy8F0T1QfljoyS_j2]steven.brady2@e...[/url
    > Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 6:31 PM
    > To: 'basicstamps@yahoogroups.com'
    > Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] broken stamp I/O pin
    >
    >
    > What about a ZIF socket? I hope I'm thinking of the right thing... Zero
    > Input Force I think is what it stands for!
    >
    > It has the little lever on the side that will clamp it down. Used in
    > programmers mostly (at least as far as I've seen it!
    >
    > sb
    >
    >
    Original Message
    > From: Beau Schwabe [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=-y_Xaj_RGB2_tAwR4V2PtTPDelRpx1jeoKENU0zgu8q1kDlRlaWyrfU1S99RfQ-qQJx36MzANcEb5t4sa1aamSM]bschwabe@a...[/url
    > Sent: November 3, 2003 12:19 PM
    > To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    > Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] broken stamp I/O pin
    >
    >
    > For future protection why not just use a wire-wrap socket?
    > Plug the stamp into the wire-wrap socket, then use the wire-wrap socket
    > piggy-back style into whatever suits your needs.... (SBB) solderless bread
    > board, existing socket, etc. When you are ready for a more permanent
    > solution, unplug the stamp from the wire-wrap socket and plug it in
    > directly.
    >
    > -Beau Schwabe
    >
    >
    > >Gary,
    > >
    > >I removed the old pin first.
    > >Note that the pins are attached to both sides of the
    > >circuit board. Unsolder one side first; allow the stamp
    > >to cool then do the other side. When you solder the
    > >new/old IC pin on, make sure that both sides are attached. Solder one
    > >side, cool it, and then the other.
    > >
    > >For desoldering, I used an Edsyn "solder sucker", but I
    > >don't see why you couldn't use light guage braid if you
    > >work quickly.
    > >
    > >I relegated the fixed stamp to a permananent use where I wouldn't be
    > >moving it in and out of a socket all the time. I tried this as a last
    > >resort, and was willing to accept failure! I didn't have a backup Stamp
    > >at the time.
    > >
    > >John
    > >
    > >
    Original Message
    > >From: "Gary Denison" <gdii@c...>
    > >To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    > >Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 2:22 PM
    > >Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] broken stamp I/O pin
    > >
    > >
    > > > Do i Unsolder the broken pin first or would that put too much heat
    > > > on the Bs2. i have a desoldering braid.
    > > >
    > > > , thanks Gary D
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > At 02:24 PM 11/3/2003 -0500, you wrote:
    > > > >I did the same thing, Gary!
    > > > >
    > > > >I smashed an old 7700 series chip and retrieved a pin. Carefully
    > > > >soldering the IC pin to the BS-2 revived it nicely. If you have
    > > > >some 4% silver solder available, use it for the added strength.
    > > > >
    > > > >Clamp the stamp in a vice for support, and do your soldering as
    > > > >quickly as possible.
    > > > >
    > > > >John
    > > > >
    > > > >
    Original Message
    > > > >From: "Gary Denison" <gdii@c...>
    > > > >To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    > > > >Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 2:07 PM
    > > > >Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] broken stamp I/O pin
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > > > i have Broken I/O pin 7 on my Bs2 what do i do for repairs? will
    > >parallax
    > > > > > fix it? thanks for any help Gary D
    >
    >
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2003-11-04 03:22
    In a message dated 11/3/2003 6:40:16 PM Pacific Standard Time,
    dokagaki@w... writes:
    > What about a ZIF socket? I hope I'm thinking of the right thing... Zero
    > Input Force I think is what it stands for!

    _________________________________________________________________

    ZIF.....not that it matters but: Zero "Insertion" Force


    [noparse][[/noparse]Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2003-11-04 03:36
    YES....was thinking one thing and typing another....hate when I do
    that....remember to pick up jam at store....yup [noparse];)[/noparse]

    sb

    Original Message
    From: smartdim@a... [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=_2NyiWE2JDLabgzqGz_HI4dCLpUyM6Q1RkXAR3ZSHrR0p2EaGFTHm7117ZIzHJlKWXjBEgfNjnBY]smartdim@a...[/url
    Sent: November 3, 2003 7:23 PM
    To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] broken stamp I/O pin


    In a message dated 11/3/2003 6:40:16 PM Pacific Standard Time,
    dokagaki@w... writes:
    > What about a ZIF socket? I hope I'm thinking of the right thing...
    > Zero Input Force I think is what it stands for!

    _________________________________________________________________

    ZIF.....not that it matters but: Zero "Insertion" Force


    [noparse][[/noparse]Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2003-11-04 13:03
    --- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "Brady,Steven [noparse][[/noparse]PYR]"
    <steven.brady2@e...> wrote:
    > What about a ZIF socket? I hope I'm thinking of the right thing...
    Zero
    > Input Force I think is what it stands for!
    >
    > It has the little lever on the side that will clamp it down. Used
    in
    > programmers mostly (at least as far as I've seen it!
    >
    > sb


    These would be great after he fixes the pin. a little bulky for a
    finshed product, but a great device for testing when you move the
    chip in and out of the device.

    The reason they are popular with other micros is that many cannot be
    easily programed unless you remove the chip, put it on a programmer
    (seperate device) burn the program, then return it to your project.
    since the Programmer only has the chip for a few minutes, the ZIF
    reduces the potential for damaging pins.

    more than you wanted to know ?

    Dave
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2003-11-04 16:35
    I do have a ZIF (zero insertion force) socket that i use now. i have
    several so i just solder those in place when i make a project. thanks. but
    i want to know if parallax will repair my stamp.


    At 03:19 PM 11/3/2003 -0500, you wrote:
    >For future protection why not just use a wire-wrap socket?
    >Plug the stamp into the wire-wrap socket, then use the
    >wire-wrap socket piggy-back style into whatever suits your
    >needs.... (SBB) solderless bread board, existing socket, etc.
    >When you are ready for a more permanent solution, unplug the
    >stamp from the wire-wrap socket and plug it in directly.
    >
    >-Beau Schwabe
    >
    >
    > >Gary,
    > >
    > >I removed the old pin first.
    > >Note that the pins are attached to both sides of the
    > >circuit board. Unsolder one side first; allow the stamp
    > >to cool then do the other side. When you solder the
    > >new/old IC pin on, make sure that both sides are attached.
    > >Solder one side, cool it, and then the other.
    > >
    > >For desoldering, I used an Edsyn "solder sucker", but I
    > >don't see why you couldn't use light guage braid if you
    > >work quickly.
    > >
    > >I relegated the fixed stamp to a permananent use where I
    > >wouldn't be moving it in and out of a socket all the time.
    > >I tried this as a last resort, and was willing to accept failure!
    > >I didn't have a backup Stamp at the time.
    > >
    > >John
    > >
    > >
    Original Message
    > >From: "Gary Denison" <gdii@c...>
    > >To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    > >Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 2:22 PM
    > >Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] broken stamp I/O pin
    > >
    > >
    > > > Do i Unsolder the broken pin first or would that put too much heat on the
    > > > Bs2. i have a desoldering braid.
    > > >
    > > > , thanks Gary D
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > At 02:24 PM 11/3/2003 -0500, you wrote:
    > > > >I did the same thing, Gary!
    > > > >
    > > > >I smashed an old 7700 series chip and retrieved a pin.
    > > > >Carefully soldering the IC pin to the BS-2 revived it
    > > > >nicely. If you have some 4% silver solder available,
    > > > >use it for the added strength.
    > > > >
    > > > >Clamp the stamp in a vice for support, and do your
    > > > >soldering as quickly as possible.
    > > > >
    > > > >John
    > > > >
    > > > >
    Original Message
    > > > >From: "Gary Denison" <gdii@c...>
    > > > >To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    > > > >Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 2:07 PM
    > > > >Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] broken stamp I/O pin
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > > > i have Broken I/O pin 7 on my Bs2 what do i do for repairs? will
    > >parallax
    > > > > > fix it? thanks for any help Gary D
    >
    >
    >
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