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LED Moving message sign

ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
edited 2000-10-29 12:03 in General Discussion
Has anyone made a moving message LED sign using a STAMP?

I'm interested in circuits and programs if possible.

Thanks in advance.

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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2000-10-27 01:54
    --- In basicstamps@egroups.com, sisinfo@s... wrote:
    > Has anyone made a moving message LED sign using a STAMP?
    >
    > I'm interested in circuits and programs if possible.
    >
    > Thanks in advance.


    Hello,

    I saw a great article in Nuts & Volts magazine, October issue Vol.
    21, no. 10. It has all the hardware you would need and the source
    code to help you out.

    Good Luck on your project.

    Frank G.
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2000-10-27 02:26
    thanks for the lead - what year was that issue?

    --- In basicstamps@egroups.com, "Dr. Frankenstein" <fwankg@y...>
    wrote:
    > --- In basicstamps@egroups.com, sisinfo@s... wrote:
    > > Has anyone made a moving message LED sign using a STAMP?
    > >
    > > I'm interested in circuits and programs if possible.
    > >
    > > Thanks in advance.
    >
    >
    > Hello,
    >
    > I saw a great article in Nuts & Volts magazine, October issue Vol.
    > 21, no. 10. It has all the hardware you would need and the source
    > code to help you out.
    >
    > Good Luck on your project.
    >
    > Frank G.
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2000-10-27 14:24
    I've build several of the LED moving signs... Instead of using the
    Nuts and Volts article, I used the book written by the same Scott
    Edwards who wrote the original N&V article. You can find the
    paperback in the sub $20 range at any good bookstore, but I ordered
    mine online. If you are starting out with a stamp, this book is
    invaluable (CD-ROM with code included).

    Author: Scott Edwards
    Title: Programming and Customizing the Basic Stamp Computer
    Publish: McGraw Hill
    ISBN: 0-07-913684-2 (paperback)
    0-07-913683-3 (hardcover)

    Inside is a whole chapter on Persistance of Vision ('Magic Message
    Machine') that includes pictures of the completed project, source
    code, part specs, wiring diagrams, and so on.

    After attempting his book design, I found that the best modification
    was to mount the stamp on a motor for continuous rotation instead of
    using a pendulum as suggested in the book. The key is to keep the
    stamp and battery mounted near the motor axle so that the inertia is
    less and the motor rotation is more steady. I was able to see my
    name very clearly but it tended to flicker right and left because the
    lack of speed control. My last design added a speed control to the
    motor, which made the name appear to 'hover' exactly in the same spot
    every rotation.

    Other hints:
    - Set the delay to smaller values than suggested in the book (I used
    a delay of zero and positioned the trigger magnet).
    - Changing the motor speed setpoint gives neat effects like
    stretching and shrinking the words. Pretty neat way to demonstrate
    velocity control.
    - Watch the resistor values for the LED bargraph display you use. I
    ended up using 1k resistors instead of the 470 to get the maximum
    brightness.
    - A speed of about 1-5 RPM worked out best. My initial mistake was
    to try to go too fast, resulting in a indescipherable blur.
    - Make sure the room is really dark...
    - DO NOT do this near a window. My first few attempts caused the
    battery (and sometimes the stamp!) to fly off into nearby people,
    places, and things. Based on the dent left in my 9 volt when it
    slammed into the floor, a window would definately not absorb the
    impact well.

    Good luck!

    - Sean Brennan

    snbrenna@u...
    mr-roboto@i...
    http://mr-roboto.me.uiuc.edu/snbrena
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2000-10-27 15:10
    I built one but I bet this isn't what you had in mind
    look at night blade project

    on
    http://www.inetport.com/~davisele/fc.html

    richard



    Original Message
    From: <sisinfo@s...>
    To: <basicstamps@egroups.com>
    Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 5:41 PM
    Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] LED Moving message sign


    > Has anyone made a moving message LED sign using a STAMP?
    >
    > I'm interested in circuits and programs if possible.
    >
    > Thanks in advance.
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2000-10-28 02:27
    --- In basicstamps@egroups.com, sisinfo@s... wrote:
    > thanks for the lead - what year was that issue?
    >
    > --- In basicstamps@egroups.com, "Dr. Frankenstein" <fwankg@y...>
    > wrote:
    > > --- In basicstamps@egroups.com, sisinfo@s... wrote:
    > > > Has anyone made a moving message LED sign using a STAMP?
    > > >
    > > > I'm interested in circuits and programs if possible.
    > > >
    > > > Thanks in advance.
    > >
    > >
    > > Hello,
    > >
    > > I saw a great article in Nuts & Volts magazine, October issue
    Vol.
    > > 21, no. 10. It has all the hardware you would need and the
    source
    > > code to help you out.
    > >
    > > Good Luck on your project.
    > >
    > > Frank G.


    It was the october issue of this year.

    See ya,

    Frank G.
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2000-10-28 23:56
    There is an article in the current issue of HomePower
    magazine [noparse][[/noparse]cover feature Issue #79 "Funky Windmill"]
    on building a flashing LED device powered by a stepper
    motor [noparse][[/noparse]which serves as the rotary bearing hub as well].
    [noparse][[/noparse]see http://www.homepower.com for online copy of current issue].

    The LEDs are rotating on blades of an old automobile fan
    which is mounted on the stepper motor Since the LEDs pulse
    with the AC current coming out of the stepper motor they
    flash in the same rotational place and appear as circular
    rings of flashes - brightness and speed of flashes
    depending on how fast the wind is driving the fan....

    It occurred to me that this is not unlike a model helicopter
    rotor... so you could have it flash stars, messages,
    current temperature etc. instead of the pattern shown.

    Perhaps one of you smart guys would like to program this!;

    You could use the stepper motor to charge batteries as well
    as synchronizing the message flash position.

    Put the electronics and batteries close to the rotational
    center so they don't have much angular momentum if they
    get loose :-)

    Let us know if you do it!

    <><><>
    Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 09:10:01 -0500
    From: "dakota" <rfriedrich@i...>
    Subject: Re: LED Moving message sign

    I built one but I bet this isn't what you had in mind
    look at night blade project on

    http://www.inetport.com/~davisele/fc.html
    <><><>

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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2000-10-29 12:03
    > There is an article in the current issue of HomePower
    > magazine [noparse][[/noparse]cover feature Issue #79 "Funky Windmill"]
    > on building a flashing LED device powered by a stepper
    > motor [noparse][[/noparse]which serves as the rotary bearing hub as well].
    > [noparse][[/noparse]see http://www.homepower.com for online copy of current issue].
    >
    > The LEDs are rotating on blades of an old automobile fan
    > which is mounted on the stepper motor Since the LEDs pulse
    > with the AC current coming out of the stepper motor they
    > flash in the same rotational place and appear as circular
    > rings of flashes - brightness and speed of flashes
    > depending on how fast the wind is driving the fan....
    See Bpb Blick's page for his propeller clock and links to variants.
    http://www.bobblick.com/bob/projects/mclock/index.html
    > It occurred to me that this is not unlike a model helicopter
    > rotor... so you could have it flash stars, messages,
    > current temperature etc. instead of the pattern shown.
    Here a guy has done it on an r/c heli with a Basic24x.
    http://www.inetport.com/~davisele/night.html
    > Perhaps one of you smart guys would like to program this!;
    >
    > You could use the stepper motor to charge batteries as well
    > as synchronizing the message flash position.
    >
    > Put the electronics and batteries close to the rotational
    > center so they don't have much angular momentum if they
    > get loose :-)
    >
    > Let us know if you do it!
    >
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