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Hazlett's Dead Man's Curve Challenge

ercoerco Posts: 20,254
That sounds a little more exciting than U-Turn Challenge (sell the sizzle, not the steak!).

Carol introduced a new contest at Robothon in October for walking robots. It was a race. Walk a few feet in a straight line, do a 180-degree turn, and come back to the start/finish line. Sounds so simple (especially compared to RoboMagellan) that I really wanted to go to see it, maybe even enter, but alas, I couldn't go. I was guessing the winning time would be under 10 seconds, maybe even 5-6 if things got interesting. But the winning time was...

Sadly, no one completed it! Obviously it's harder than it sounds, but I'll bet at least a half dozen of us have bots capable of attempting this right now. I'm hoping Carol will supply us with the rules and the arena specs. It's a specified distance, so it's slightly more formal than the Figure 8 Challenge (F8C). It's up to us Forumistas to show the world how it's done with style and substance. We can track time too, but there are many beautiful walking mechanisms that will be fun and educational to watch even if they walk at a stately pace and snub the stopwatch. As with F8C, returning to the exact start position demonstrates good repeatability and mastery of navigation and dead reckoning skills, arguably more important than sheer speed.

I'm def in. Anyone else?

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  • mindrobotsmindrobots Posts: 6,506
    edited 2015-11-11 04:19
    "I was cruisin' in my Stingray late one night, when an XKE pulled up on my right." (Yeah, I'm that old!!)

    Sounds deceptively simple...results seem to prove otherwise. Sadly, I have nothing that walks except for my unbuilt Yeti.

    As always, i'll just sit back with the popcorn and watch!
  • ercoerco Posts: 20,254
    edited 2015-11-11 04:42
    mindrobots wrote: »
    Sadly, I have nothing that walks except for my unbuilt Yeti.

    Silly Rick. You just answered your own question. Now git mit der programme!

    Edit: If little Günther can build one, so can Rick!



  • Perhaps it needs to be on a slope to truly be one....
    "a decreasing radius blind turn to the left with a downhill entry. Maximum speed in the first half of the turn is too fast for the last half of the turn, making it all too easy to lose control, run off the road and crash."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Man's_Curve
  • WhitWhit Posts: 4,191
    ;-) Run Forest! Run!
  • LoopyBytelooseLoopyByteloose Posts: 12,537
    edited 2015-11-11 16:58


    downhill and closing radius...


  • Or there are the hair-pin turn rallies...
    People have been doing these for ages.....

  • That's called drifting nowadays. :)

    Now back to our normal robotics channel. :)
  • LoopyBytelooseLoopyByteloose Posts: 12,537
    edited 2015-11-11 16:56
    Robotic drifting seems to appeal to me, very leading edge. I just don't quite know how to apply it to a Toddler or other walking robot.



    Yeah, I used to drift my 6 cylinder 1968 F-85 Oldsmobie 4-door with automatic tranny runniing from Eugene to San Francisco through the Siskyou Mountains. My best time for what was supposed to be a 12 hour journey was 6.5 hours door-to-door with one gas stop.... which included getting a ticket for doing 110mph on I-5 along the way.

    Not really a good idea. surprised to still be amongst the living.
  • ercoerco Posts: 20,254
    edited 2015-11-12 02:30
    Loopy, that can be a whole separate challenge, and here's the first entry. Drifting Figure 8's!



    Edit: This related video about RObot Stock Car (ROSCAR) racing is also interesting.


  • LoopyBytelooseLoopyByteloose Posts: 12,537
    edited 2015-11-13 10:24
    Wow. I like the figure 8 drifting with a robot.

    Not so sure I like the 'robot stock car' racing on a regulation indoor track... seems a bit slow.

    ===================
    I was thinking that a series of hairpin turns as a hill climb rally might be feasible for a line following robot and would add a lot to line following competitions. Measuring the G-force and centripital force to control slippage would be done with those inexpensive 9DOH sensors that are available now.

    I envision something like 5 hair pin turns, turn around at the top and go back to the beginning. Layoff all 5 turns on a flat board of flexible foam. Cut the board and then bend and support to make a hill-side.

    Here is a peek of what it might look like, but the photo actually has 8 turns... some banked, some flat.
    https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Col_de_Braus-small.jpg#/media/File:Col_de_Braus-small.jpg
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