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  • prof_brainoprof_braino Posts: 4,313
    edited 2011-08-21 14:55
    mindrobots wrote: »
    Amazon ... Kindle edition available for $87.34

    The Kindle on PC shows the sample chapters on the desktop just fine. But it does not appear to sync with the version on the laptop.

    Does anyone know if a purchased book can be displayed on more than one device?
  • prof_brainoprof_braino Posts: 4,313
    edited 2011-08-21 15:03
    idea that a modestly priced ebook/large format softcover created for a free online class might be a way to keep food on the table for someone with the proper skills and reputation.

    That's a really good idea. How about the rest of us that don't have any particular reputation? We could all contribute articles, and make some kind of formula based on quantity & quality of content. All the authors could review and correct the material. As new material gets added, the new versions increase in value. I'd like to do this for the kids' robotic material for BSA and school.

    This should be a separate thread if anybody else wants to discuss it.
  • prof_brainoprof_braino Posts: 4,313
    edited 2011-08-22 09:14
  • prof_brainoprof_braino Posts: 4,313
    edited 2011-08-22 09:41
    WHAT Language do you plan to use for the homework?

    Some folks say Lisp is best suited, but I don't have it handy.
    Lots of folks talking about Python.
    Also possible is C.

    Anyone planning to use SPIN?

    Dare I use FORTH? :)
  • HumanoidoHumanoido Posts: 5,770
    edited 2011-08-22 10:01
    Relax, you have a choice of 175 programming languages for the Propeller.
    http://forums.parallax.com/showthread.php?113091-ULTIMATE-List-of-Propeller-Languages&highlight=ultimate

    How about LISP for the Hydra? Written in C. Takes 96K. Took me about 10 minutes to find it, compile it, load it and run it.
    Ross.

    LISP - for HYDRA, written in C. Takes 96K., by ROSSH . Added super trivial garbage collection to make it possible to execute more than just a couple of lines of lisp before running out of space! New version uses short pointers instead of long pointers - allows for over 3 times as many lisp nodes.
    http://forums.parallax.com/forums/de...5&p=1&m=353721
    http://forums.parallax.com/forums/attach.aspx?a=31586
  • prof_brainoprof_braino Posts: 4,313
    edited 2011-08-22 10:14
    On reddit I see there's another one, machine learning.

    http://ml-class.org/

    In for a penny, in for a pound.

    http://www.db-class.org/

    Now its there's a set.
  • prof_brainoprof_braino Posts: 4,313
    edited 2011-08-22 15:36
    Humanoido wrote: »
    choice of 175 programming languages for the Propeller.
    LISP for HYDRA in C. Takes 96K., ... possible to execute more than just a couple of lines of lisp before running out of space.

    I think my strategy will be to tackle the class first, and apply concepts to the prop as a separate effort. Must limit scope, or increase the risk of failure, and all that.

    Python on the PC sounds compatible with the existing materials. Python is said to be powerful and straightforward.
  • mindrobotsmindrobots Posts: 6,506
    edited 2011-08-22 18:44
    I guess they don't do the Machine Learning class BEFORE the AI class 'cause then everybody would just program their computers to take the class for them! :lol:
  • jdoleckijdolecki Posts: 726
    edited 2011-08-30 03:28
    Signup is now open.
  • mindrobotsmindrobots Posts: 6,506
    edited 2011-09-02 18:09
    OK, in for a penny, in for a pound!!

    Registered? Yup, just registered for the "advanced" class - homework, quizzes, tests. I can always chicken out and go to the non-tested version.
    Textbook? Check, just downloaded the Kindle version of the textbook to my iPad (the other copy will probably go on one of my laptops)
    Twitter? Just signed up so I can follow the class (now I need to apply some real intelligence to figure out what/why/how to twitter (mindrobots...or is that @mindrobots if anybody wants to follow me)
    Facebook? Yup, dusted off my facebook account for virtual classroom interaction (Rick Post on Facebook)

    See you all at school!!
  • LoopyBytelooseLoopyByteloose Posts: 12,537
    edited 2011-09-03 09:26
    @prof_braino
    If you really need LISP, try installed a dual boot of Ubuntu Linux in order to get a good FREE version.
  • RonPRonP Posts: 384
    edited 2011-09-07 20:27
    @mindrobots

    I also signed up for the class, don't know how well I will be able to follow it but I am going to try. A few weeks ago I start watching both Linear Algebra and Probability Theory on the Kahn Academy site. Nice to have the related links in one spot thanks. I know I'll be watching them more than once.

    -Ron
  • iDaveiDave Posts: 252
    edited 2011-09-07 20:47
    Looking at those prereqs, I yelled out my Chris Farley "Holy Schnikes!" Thanks for the links my good sir. I'm in as well and haven't had a math class in 16 years. Got the book and started reading it. It delves into some fascinating history on A.I. at the beginning. So, looks like Mr. Khan & I shall get acquainted.
  • prof_brainoprof_braino Posts: 4,313
    edited 2011-09-10 07:38
    Thanks for the links!

    I just pulled the trigger and got the kindle ebook version of Artificial Intelleigence: A Mordern Approve 3rd Ed. for $64 on amazon.
    Kindle edition link is on http://www.amazon.com/Artificial-Intelligence-Modern-Approach-3rd/dp/0136042597

    I have kindle on the PC and the laptop, it seems to sync the book on both devices.
    It does NOT display on the iPhone kindle app; although it show in the "archived" list.

    I haven't gotten and android phone yet, so I have not tested if the kindle app for android will display it.
  • HumanoidoHumanoido Posts: 5,770
    edited 2011-09-10 08:22
    How about LISP - for HYDRA, written in C. Takes 96K., by ROSSH
    http://forums.parallax.com/showthread.php?113091-ULTIMATE-List-of-Propeller-Languages&highlight=ultimate

    Added super trivial garbage collection to make it possible to execute more than just a couple of lines of lisp before running out of space! New version uses short pointers instead of long pointers - allows for over 3 times as many lisp nodes.
    http://forums.parallax.com/forums/de...5&p=1&m=353721
    http://forums.parallax.com/forums/attach.aspx?a=31586
  • mindrobotsmindrobots Posts: 6,506
    edited 2011-09-10 09:05
    @prof_b

    I think the Kindle edition has a 2 copy maximum. It will show up in your archives on any Kindle reader ( HW or SW) in the archive but it can only be active two places. As for keeping in sync, Kindle has always done a fine job of that for me unless I'm reading on my iPad away from Wifi and it doesn't get a chance to sync before I start reading the same title on some other device.

    I'm looking at Python for the AI class, because I don't know it .....which makes no sense at all when it comes to flooding a language for the class!

    I'm also going through the prerequisite online courses.....yikes! My brain is old and rusty!
  • prof_brainoprof_braino Posts: 4,313
    edited 2011-09-10 15:50
    I'm checking out python for windows. The devil you know, etc.

    http://www.python.org/getit/

    I tried installing ubuntu 11.04 from the live USB, but it was too slow, the live CD install keeps trashing my laptop. So I'm probably NOT going to use a linux box unless I can get it squared away before the class starts.

    I have the option of using python on the OLPC-XO, but sugar is in the way, and gnome is painful on the 266Mhz processor.
  • mindrobotsmindrobots Posts: 6,506
    edited 2011-09-30 20:53
    For anyone playing at home, the non-virtual kids have started class. The webpage for the "real" class is: http://cs221.stanford.edu
    There's a class outline, syllabus, first lecture, reading assignments, first homework (warm up your Python!!)

    Not drowning yet!!
  • Kevin WoodKevin Wood Posts: 1,266
    edited 2011-10-01 05:19
    If anybody needs a quick intro to Python for this, here's a decent one... http://learnpythonthehardway.org/book/
  • prof_brainoprof_braino Posts: 4,313
    edited 2011-10-05 11:18
    I don't seem to see a link to the videos of the lectures. Didn't they record them last week in the live class and post them?
  • mindrobotsmindrobots Posts: 6,506
    edited 2011-10-05 11:59
    The lecture slides (PDF's and PowerPoints) are on the http://cs221.stanford.edu site along with the reading assignments and the first homework assignment for the real kids.

    Other than the prereqs, I guess they are waiting for 10/10 date to roll around for the virtual kids.

    I've been looking through the lecture slides, reviewing my linear algebra and probability (odds are NOT enough reviewing), reading along/ahead and pondering Python to prep for the first day of school.

    I'm doing likewise for Machine Learning (http://cs229.stanford.edu)
  • prof_brainoprof_braino Posts: 4,313
    edited 2011-10-05 12:12
    Yeah I found the videos for ML and DB easily enough; but none for AI. I keep hitting the "Stanford only" registration at https://stanford.ai-class.com/registration/login and thinking something is wrong. Reading ahead and studying python for homework 1 is a good course of action.

    http://www.stanford.edu/class/cs221/progAssignments/PA1/search.html looks like I am really enrolled in a university level CS course!
  • ercoerco Posts: 20,254
    edited 2011-11-15 13:26
    Ain't heard a peep outta anyone in this class. I signed up, but had to drop back to audit early on. Parent in failing health takes priority this season. Anyhow, I bought the book and it's just sitting here. Yeah, the paper phonebook. BIG. I know it's late, but if anyone wants it, I'll offer it for what I paid, $70 plus shipping. In like-new shape. I know, it sounds expensive, but it's actually a good deal...
  • mindrobotsmindrobots Posts: 6,506
    edited 2011-11-15 13:56
    Erco, sorry to hear about your family problems. That's always tough and always a priority. My prayers are with your family.

    I had to bail and now I'm auditing as time allows. I have the Kindle version of the book....same $70, harder to resell! My innate intelligence and High School education wasn't keeping up with the probabilities and then when it crossed paths with the multivariate linear algebra using gradient decent to minimize cost functions I decided I'd rather be sitting in front of the TV watching Survivor after a hard day's work.
  • prof_brainoprof_braino Posts: 4,313
    edited 2011-11-15 19:25
    I didn't do a damn thing. Ok, I bought the book. And read the first several chapters. And set up Ubuntu on an old laptop. And in the process diagnosed a whole slew of issues ubuntu has with USB peripherals, grub install, and Smile integrated video chips. And finally got it run stable. And got python installed, and found the references, and started to get programs to run, despite my vow to never learn another programming language unless there was a chance I would actually use it for something. And met a bunch of people that are actually interested and progressing on the work, and maybe I can pick their brains when I need AI on the imagining module for the TOF rangefinder. But aside from that, I didn't do a damn thing. I think I already got my money's worth.

    And there's always next semester!
  • ercoerco Posts: 20,254
    edited 2011-11-15 19:37
    And so it goes! The material was heady and class demands high for all of us. Those Stanford kids are getting a real workout in that class!
  • iDaveiDave Posts: 252
    edited 2011-11-15 20:39
    Yepper, I also was all confident and started with the advanced track and even averaged 90% on the first 2 tests but have had my hiny kicked since then. Just takes more time then I can give. Now Im just going at my own leisure and getting what I can out of it. Just want to get a good understanding of the terminology, concepts and methods so I can later drill down when (if) I'll need it. I found a good pdf of class notes someone put together. I have other links & stuff if anyone interested.

    https://sites.google.com/site/aiclassnotes/
  • ercoerco Posts: 20,254
    edited 2016-05-08 18:04
    For anyone like me whose AI textbook is gathering dust, I just got an email from Half.com about buying back textbooks at http://half.valorebooks.com/sell-textbooks

    IIRC my book is 3rd edition, like new, ISBN 9780136042594, for which they are offering to pay $88 and free ship. I think I'll sell while the book is still worth something. "Time is monkey", said Cheetah.

    Edit: Here's an optimistic Ebay seller, asking $168: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Artificial-Intelligence-A-Modern-Approach-3rd-Edition-/322073913954 It only takes one buyer!
  • erco wrote: »
    For anyone like me whose AI textbook is gathering dust, I just got an email from Half.com about buying back textbooks at http://half.valorebooks.com/sell-textbooks

    IIRC my book is 3rd edition, like new, ISBN 9780136042594, for which they are offering to pay $88 and free ship. I think I'll sell while the book is still worth something. "Time is monkey", said Cheetah.
    Cool! I have the same book. I think I'll sell mine as well. Thanks for the link!

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