I have had a hard time trying to work with spin. I guess the general structure is so different that I can't stick to it. I am wanting to try C for P1, but I have no idea where to start. I remember that ersmith's IDE had access to a multi language compiler and I would like to use that compiler, but I have forgotten where to get his IDE. The other thing I would like to know is where I can find a few PropC tutorials.