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Wow, that's ancient. I remember playing with the BS1 a few years after it came out, but it was limited and happily moved to the BS2 when it was released.

But outside of nostalgia I don't see much...

Sparkfun and Adafruit have largely taken Heathkit's place.

First we had hands free cell phones that turned people in babbling lunatics and yobs that ruined movies and the theatre.

Now we get pervertware from the evil doers at Google.

The good thing is...

KC-Rob

That's exactly what I meant. Undiluted C isn't becoming more popular among hobbyists for some mysterious reason. It is that the Arduino and Wiring folks found a way to make a simplified...

_rjo

Programming in C isn't hard especially if you limit yourself to a subset which is done with Arduino/Wiring, which was to make C accessible to non-technicals. Mbed development system for the...

Heater

You're being a bit dishonest. Normal people don't code commercial real-time systems. experienced engineers who know real-time systems do. If they are good, it's not a issue and not...

Want the P3, better hope that Parallax sells a couple million P2's in by this time next year.

Basic is still alive and well, I can find it for just about any micro out there. But don't expect it on the P2 and if it gets ported expect it to be a red haired step child. SPIN is the supported...

C would have never got a foothold in education if it wasn't for Arduino/Wiring which hides the ugliness and complexity of C/C++ from mere mortals. Now regular C is fine for guys who spend all day...

Bill

Had a bad morning?

I wasn't attacking you and it wasn't about you. All I was doing was speculating why the prices for hobby boards hit rock bottom and made clearly impossible for one man...

I think board pricing for the hobbyist market was changed big time by the Raspberry. Before it came along you had +$150.00 boards like the Beagleboard and the bone at around $90.00. The mbed ARM...

MJB

And who is going to port the Arduino libraries to GCC for the P2? So far nothing but crickets and if Parallax doesn't give it's stamp of approval, it probably won't happen.

The sad thing...

The way you reach a market segment is not to treat them like garbage or idiots, okay?

The fact is, the Arduino market is composed of non-technical artist types. The kind that don't do FFT audio...

ElectricAye nailed at least a part of it.

Arduino isn't going away and it's growing, you already can find its development system on PIC32's and ARM's and 16 bit microchip offerings. It's a game...

Phil

If Parallax wants to play with the big dogs then they better start making direct comparisons with devices like the SHARC, Sitara, M4 ARMs and other offerings. That means benchmarks(which...

When the P1 came out it screamed "industrial applications" to me. It seemed to be a perfect chip for that particular arena. The P2 specs say the same to me. I could see it just cookin as a DIT-MCO...

If I read Pedward's analysis right. It means that open source games are unfit for the P2 as their source code would have to be completely rewritten to in order to make it Prop friendly.

So no...

If you can get Doom ported and running, you got a chance. This will validate IMO the P2 as a retro game station.

ElectricAye

Yes there is a market for VGA among Arduino users. The Prop gurus should have had VGA board 3 years ago for them. It's a perfect niche market. But certain hostile attitudes prevail...

Cluso

I bet the folks at Parallax wish they had that sort of mistake on their hands that the Raspberry folks have. They have the sort of success and recognition you can't buy.

So what that it...

I could easily see PLC's based on the P2 and handling the industrial protocols, it's really geared for that sort of work. It would be nice if the P2 was rolled out with some sort of bare bones PLC...

Fred

Ghielectronics does the very thing with their upper end products.

Link:
http://www.ghielectronics.com/catalog/product/398

However I don't have a clue as to how popular it is. A...

Fred

Ghielectronics does the very thing with their upper end products.

Link:
http://www.ghielectronics.com/catalog/product/398

However I don't have a clue as to how popular it is. A...

I like Bill H's approach. Basically make it a option on the PCB to keep the boards price competitive with all the other low cost embedded controller offerings out there.

Just make wireless a option. USB 2.0 is fine with me.