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  		   Posted 6/28/2009 11:52 PM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I got out of my comfort zone and gave a presentation at UPEW on my latest project. It's yet another Spin compiler I'm afraid, but with a bit of a twist: www.sphinxcompiler.com

The website is still a work in progress, but then again so is the software, really. Proceed at your own risk.

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  		   Posted 6/28/2009 11:57 PM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Very, very cool! Kudos!

Missed it by ->" "<- that much!

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  		   Posted 6/29/2009 1:30 AM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Extroardinary work,

One small step for mpark ... one giant leap for all Propeller heads!

Ross.

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  		   Posted 6/29/2009 1:54 AM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Oh my god. Wow!

I have no keyboard around here, will it be easy for me to modify to use a serial terminal just to check it out?

For me, the past is not over yet.

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  		   Posted 6/29/2009 2:29 AM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.

Fantastic news Michael jumpin

As soon as time permits, I am definately going to have to dust off my version of Chip's spin interpreter and modify it to use external sram yeah

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  		   Posted 6/29/2009 2:57 AM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
This is great! You gave a very nice demonstration mpark! I didn't think it was possible... I was going to look into doing an onboard BASIC compiler, but this is much better...

I bet one could even add a debugger that would show values of certian HUB RAM variables somewhere...

Really nice of you to make it MIT license.

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  		   Posted 6/29/2009 5:12 AM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Wonderful news! Thanks for all the effort.
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  		   Posted 6/29/2009 6:24 AM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
great presentation Mike. You were 'in the zone'
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  		   Posted 6/29/2009 6:31 AM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
@mpark, Congrats on your project.
I really enjoyed hearing you speak. Have you ever considered radio broadcasting or voice overlay?

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  		   Posted 6/29/2009 6:51 AM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
WOW!
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  		   Posted 6/29/2009 7:07 AM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
@mpark, well done matey, it certainly is one GREAT step for prop-kind :D

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  		   Posted 6/29/2009 7:15 AM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
And his presentation was Propeller only. (and that alone was very cool) I loved the "Prop Point" joke. Mike has this great delivery where he just puts it out there and everybody starts grinning. Bonus points for interacting with the audience!

@mpark Your presentation reminded me of how Larry Lessig normally does things.

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  		   Posted 6/29/2009 8:16 AM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Thanks all! Sorry about the unfinished documentation. I'll try to finish it up or at least flesh it out when I get back home in a couple of days.

@heater: Depends on how you define "easy". I'm sure it's possible, but it kinda defeats the whole spirit of the thing. Just buy a keyboard, man!

@jazzed: Sorry I missed you at the expo. I wanted to put as many faces to handles as I could.

@potatohead: I've never seen Larry Lessig, but I'll take your comment as a compliment.

@UPEW attendees: A real pleasure to meet you in person. What a great bunch!

As Potatohead mentioned, I ran my presentation off a Propeller, specifically a Hybrid. I wish I'd taken a second to give a shout-out to Coley for a great board. Belatedly: Thank you Coley!

If you try out Sphinx, I think you'll soon find that Ed is just not up to the task of editing Spin files, so everyone go pester CassLan to get his PrEditor done.
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  		   Posted 6/29/2009 8:42 AM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
@mpark

Thanks and your are most welcome, words of encouragement like that is all I need!

I'm at works at the moment but rest assured I will be firing up my Hybrid and trying this as soon as I get in...

How exciting..... smilewinkgrin

Regards,

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  		   Posted 6/29/2009 10:46 AM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
@Mpark It's a compliment.

I'll second the recommendation for the HYBRID board. It's my favorite and it is rock solid. Highly recommended.

Considering the 100Mhz XTAL upgrade to it this week!

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  		   Posted 6/29/2009 12:39 PM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
BTW, I was at the Expo, and in my mind Sphinx is best of show.

Now to get the source and see if we can't make an interactive Spin environment
(type in a spin expression and see what happens immediately!). That would
make it fun for people to play with the counters and stuff.
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  		   Posted 6/29/2009 2:17 PM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
@mpark

WOW, awesome work my friend, this will really open things up.

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  		   Posted 6/29/2009 9:49 PM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Unbelievably cool !!!

It was great to meet you and your wife - I am looking forward to watching the video so I can catch all of it as I missed large portions explaining Morpheus to people coming to my table (I was very excited to spill the beans at last!)

Largos will support your compiler.

mpark said...
I got out of my comfort zone and gave a presentation at UPEW on my latest project. It's yet another Spin compiler I'm afraid, but with a bit of a twist: www.sphinxcompiler.com

The website is still a work in progress, but then again so is the software, really. Proceed at your own risk.

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  		   Posted 6/29/2009 11:08 PM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.

Fantastic Michael - still jumpin for joy cool

I will have to modify your code for the TriBlade and the RamBlade as follows (but easy to do as soon as I can find the time)

  • SD card pins are not contiguous and on the TriBlade and -CS is on a latch
  • The terminal (keyboard and video) are on another prop, so FDX has to communicate to the other prop

Do you have a version (driver) that runs to the PC (instead of keyboard and video) like heater did in ZiCog ? Before I get comments... yes, I know this defeats the intended purpose. I often do this when I cannot get access to the VGA screen (it doubles as our TV on the boat). If not, then I will have a go at this.

I will also have to get sram working as a SD FAT16 disk. Faster compiles :p

I can see lots of interesting work to do yeah

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  		   Posted 6/30/2009 11:07 AM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Wow
.. this is not only the first "on chip" compiler, it is also the first open source Spin compiler !!!!
And with so little limitations, I never considered this as possible.

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  		   Posted 6/30/2009 10:27 PM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Hi all. Finally back home after a leisurely road trip. A few things:
1. The source is open, but it's also a mess. If you can figure it out, please feel free to take it in whatever directions you like.
2. If you experience strange errors running Sphinx, try reformatting the SD card. A cop-out, I know, but remarkably effective.
3. I will work on the documentation on the website. Please post or email any questions or suggestions. I could use them to guide me; otherwise I'll just write whatever.

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  		   Posted 7/1/2009 10:46 AM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I've been working on a new version of fsrw (with lonesock) so no time to make a REPL (read-eval-print loop) based on this.

Maybe someone else would like to take up this challenge?

Even something that only read-eval-prints a single simple expression would be extremely cool and useful.
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  		   Posted 7/1/2009 2:18 PM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Had a good play on it tonight mpark :) and what can I say, buy OMFG prop coding on a prop, how cool is that :D kudos to you matey!
I'm gonna have to add File though :D lol

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Dude,
This is an awesome piece of work.
I'm working hard on Preditor to get it done to be used inconjunction with this.

And I'm happy to say that whats done of it so far compiles and runs off Sphinx with no problems!, And it uses FSRW, KB, FullDuplexSerial..etc all just as it does if compiled with PropTool.

Way to go !!!!

Rick

 
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  		   Posted 7/2/2009 1:43 PM (GMT -8)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
That's great to hear, Rick! I'm following your progress closely on the Preditor thread. I'm totally counting on you to save me from having to improve lame old ed :)
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