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HollyMinkowski
104lbs of trouble

Date Joined May 2009
Total Posts : 445

Posted 8/11/2009 8:02 AM (GMT -8)

Another title that is sorely needed for the Prop.

"P8X32A Assembly language For The Complete Idiot"
(I'd buy a copy)

Oldbitcollector
Professional Stuntman

Date Joined Mar 2007
Total Posts : 3370

Posted 8/11/2009 8:11 AM (GMT -8)

HollyMinkowski said...
Another title that is sorely needed for the Prop.

"P8X32A Assembly language For The Complete Idiot"
(I'd buy a copy)

Make that two.. I'd take one!

OBC

New to the Propeller?

Visit the: The Propeller Pages @ Warranty Void.

HollyMinkowski
104lbs of trouble

Date Joined May 2009
Total Posts : 445

Posted 8/11/2009 8:17 AM (GMT -8)

@Oldbitcollector

Maybe someday I will write that asm book myself.

Right now it would be a case of the blind leading the blind

Harprit
Registered Member

Date Joined Dec 2008
Total Posts : 62

Posted 8/11/2009 10:14 AM (GMT -8)

Where is the language described?
What resources are available?
Who sells the software?

I'll look into it but having just finished
How to run motors with PIC microprocessors and
How to make Instrument and controllers with PIC microprocessors
And now finishing up the 101 book I'm a bit burned out right now!

The fact that there are not many good beginners books is a hallmark of the problems that
we as a society and going through, and on the horizon is the death of the book as we know
it today.

NOT GOOD

HSS

Bob Lawrence (VE1RLL)
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Date Joined Aug 2007
Total Posts : 420

Posted 8/11/2009 11:53 AM (GMT -8)

@Harprit: A few references for you.

Assembly Language Primer for the Absolute Beginner
forums.parallax.com/forums/attach.aspx?a=28716

Assembly Code Examples for the Beginner
forums.parallax.com/forums/default.aspx?f=25&m=141093

Quick Reference Guide for Propeller Assembly
forums.parallax.com/forums/attach.aspx?a=10577

Programming the Parallax Propeller using Machine Language
An intermediate level tutorial by deSilva © 2007
Version 1.21 2007-08-21
forums.parallax.com/forums/attach.aspx?a=16161

Wikispaces /Assembly+Programming
propeller.wikispaces.com/Assembly+Programming

Assembler for the Parallax Propeller
www.cliff.biffle.org/software/propeller/propasm/

Propeller Assembler Source-code Debugger
propeller.wikispaces.com/PASD

How is RES different from LONG?
propeller.wikispaces.com/LONG+vs+RES

Edited(as per StefanL38's request) to add: Assembly, step by step
forums.parallax.com/forums/default.aspx?f=25&p=2&m=187621

Post Edited (Bob Lawrence (VE1RLL)) : 9/20/2009 4:21:22 PM GMT

microcontrolled
My head is SPINing.

Date Joined Oct 2008
Total Posts : 867

Posted 8/11/2009 12:11 PM (GMT -8)

I would take that ASM book! That makes 3!

Just call me micro.

If it's not Parallax then don't even bother.

I have changed my avatar so that I will no longer be confused with others who use genaric avatars.

Mini-Din/PS2 connectors are for sale! 5 for $1! PM me if you wish to make an order.

Cheap shipping unless specified! 150 left!!

Harprit
Registered Member

Date Joined Dec 2008
Total Posts : 62

Posted 8/11/2009 12:12 PM (GMT -8)

Cosmic:

Thanks

HSS

PS
Re information of robot on left asked about by many.
This robot is built in my book on Intro to robotics published in 1996!!!!
It is the first weight shifting robot of its kind.
Its the first one that actually walked or should I say waddled
I put it in the public domain for all to build and learn
Not counting the servos and controller you can build it for $5.00 with a fret saw.
All the many new humanoids now on the market are based on the information in my book but only one
guys actually say that what he sells is based on my book.
So much for credits re intellectual property created.
It must be the times.
HSS.

hover1
I have 3 Propellers

Date Joined Sep 2007
Total Posts : 374

Posted 8/11/2009 12:12 PM (GMT -8)

I'll take two books. I need to get up to speed twice as fast!

Jim

Oldbitcollector said...

HollyMinkowski said...
Another title that is sorely needed for the Prop.

"P8X32A Assembly language For The Complete Idiot"
(I'd buy a copy)

Make that two.. I'd take one!

OBC

Radio Shack Jim
Registered Member

Date Joined Jul 2008
Total Posts : 99

Posted 9/20/2009 5:41 AM (GMT -8)

Any More updates? I am very interested in Particularly the interface of SPIN and PASM.
RadioShack_JIM

StefanL38
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Date Joined Sep 2006
Total Posts : 958

Posted 9/20/2009 7:43 AM (GMT -8)

here is a thread Assembly, step by step

that has examples for interfacing between SPIN and PASM

see the example-code in this thread
best regards

Stefan

Harprit
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Date Joined Dec 2008
Total Posts : 62

Posted 9/20/2009 2:02 PM (GMT -8)

No more updates
The book is getting close to done
Its essentially scoped out but needs fortification and checking
I'm up to 270 pages or so today. Will be 350 or so.
Writing code frantically
This is one fantastic chip. Who knew!
Never thought I'd have so much fun
First material has been submitted to McGraw Hill
Final submittal due Dec 15
I will meet the deadline
Book will be out in about 3 months after that.
As promised, lots of pictures
Lots and lots of code
Pages and pages of code
Every line commented in detail
Lots of real world applications

Here is the thing as of now

Outline as of Sept 10 2009
There will be minor changes as books gets to completion

Preface
Part. 1 The Propeller. What it is
Understanding the system
1 General introduction to the Propeller chip
2 Propeller chip
3 Hardware and software set up
4 Propeller tool environment
5 The memories
6 The 8 cogs
7 One Cog
8 Special terms and ideas
9 The Spin language
10 Why and how of shared memory
11 Tasks that are suited to parallel processing

Part 2. Input and output, the basics
Beginning learning by doing
12 General discussion of the projects
13 Setting up the LCD so we can get started
14 Reading inputs and creating outputs
15 Binary Inputs and outputs
16 Pulse widths
17 Duty cycles
18 Reading and setting Frequencies.
19 Read a potentiometer.

Part 3. The Projects. Combining the basics.
Advanced Learning by Making
20 Liquid Crystal Displays in detail
21 R/C Servo
22 Touch panel
23 Motors prelim discussion
24 Motor amplifiers
25 Small DC motors
26 Stepper motors
27 Simple single point Controller
28 Using a gravity sensor to create a level
29 Using a light detector to create a light meter.
30 Running a DC motor with an optical encoder
Metronomes
Output to seven segment displays

Appendix
Debugging
Suppliers
Terms

Index

A million thanks to all who took time to help me.
Here and at Parallax
And did I ever need help, and how!

Best regards
Harprit

Harprit
Registered Member

Date Joined Dec 2008
Total Posts : 62

Posted 11/3/2009 10:52 AM (GMT -8)

I thought I could find this code on the internet and save
myself a lot of trouble but it was not to be. It took me a
while to get the job done but I learned a lot along the
way.

Here is the code needed to read the MCP3202 AtoD converter
100% in Spin. Completely commented and documented

Book progress. 50% has been submitted to publisher.
90% done. 100% needs to be gone over.

Harprit

File Attachment :
LCDRoutines4.spin 12KB (application/octet-stream)

This file has been downloaded 14 time(s).

File Attachment :
MCP3202Read1.spin 5KB (application/octet-stream)

This file has been downloaded 9 time(s).

humanoido
Creative Parallax Projects

Date Joined Jul 2007
Total Posts : 1027

Posted 11/3/2009 2:51 PM (GMT -8)

Harprit said...
Re information of robot on left asked about by many.
This robot is built in my book on Intro to robotics published in 1996!!!!
It is the first weight shifting robot of its kind.

Is there a web site with this public domain information?

humanoido

Harprit
Registered Member

Date Joined Dec 2008
Total Posts : 62

Posted 11/3/2009 3:18 PM (GMT -8)

No website. How about starting one. Run it with a Propeller
Robot can be built for under $10.00 not counting servos and control.
I have a few copies of the book left if you'd like one
Has complete plans, software etc etc
Lots of pics
$25.00 PPD via USPO
HSS

Post Edited (Harprit) : 11/4/2009 2:15:40 AM GMT

pacman
I have so much to learn....

Date Joined Mar 2009
Total Posts : 83

Posted 11/3/2009 3:27 PM (GMT -8)

Harprit said...

Book progress. 50% has been submitted to publisher.
90% done. 100% needs to be gone over.

Harprit

Is there someway or pre-ordering this? (from Amazon? then I can combine it with the other prop book and save on postage)

=================
The future is in our hands.
Which way to the future?
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Harprit
Registered Member

Date Joined Dec 2008
Total Posts : 62

Posted 11/3/2009 4:57 PM (GMT -8)

Yes, it should be on the Amazon site within a week or so.
I have seen the cover art and approved it.
They need to set a price and then I think they will Post it
and then you can Pre order it. I already Pre ordered the Parallax book
The cover for my book is very similar. Same series, like my Motors
Book and my Instruments Book. They are all on the Amazon site.

I'd love to hear what you think when you get your copy.

Regards
HSS

Post Edited (Harprit) : 11/4/2009 1:18:27 AM GMT

whiteoxe
Registered Member

Date Joined Aug 2007
Total Posts : 97

Posted 11/3/2009 6:54 PM (GMT -8)

Be good if you sat down down with a beginner and watched them walk through the entire book and also gave a copy to a couple of beginners and asked them to make notes of what they had trouble with ? Would be challenging in some ways if you understand completely a subject and are writing to an audience that knows very little. At some point it would be hard acknowledging./seeing your own assumptions?

Harprit
Registered Member

Date Joined Dec 2008
Total Posts : 62

Posted 11/4/2009 10:48 AM (GMT -8)

_Spinner:
You will recall that a lot was put on this discussion board about a year ago so I do have an idea about what is going on but I don't think it will be possible to go through the scenario you have described considering the deadlines we are working under. If we had the time it would be the best way to do it, I agree.
Thanks for the input
HSS

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