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Tubular wrote: »
The 12 year long Sausage.
(but worth the wait)...
Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi) wrote: »
How about the Parallax VP (viimeinen potkuri). Chip will understand. :)
The 'last propeller'? I wonder.
Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi) wrote: »
At the very least, you should take a few years off when everything is in production and the software tools are written and documented.
msrobots wrote: »
And that is why I still would like to get the monitor in the rom. Has to be this time, not next version.
That's another ten years hard slog keeping up with M$
Heater. wrote: »
M$ is irrelevant now.
No time should be wasted developing M$ only solutions. All tools should be cross-platform. We already have OpenSpin, SimpleIDE, PropellerIDE and others for that.
M$ itself has shown how to do it with it's own, wonderful, Visual Studio Code editor/IDE.
Oddly enough, the programs that are working least well on this Surface Pro 4 with Win 10 are legacy Windows only applications. Pretty much everything else I have in here is an open source and cross platform application and they work very well.
sadly all this cross-platform stuff seems to exclude windows. ... I know @heater, you advocate for it all the time, but most of the stuff claiming to be cross-platform is Linux-platform, windows excluded.
...but in all my professional life (about 15 years construction/truck driving and around 30 years of programming (times overlap) I never ever found even ONE company or customer using Linux in his office or workplace. Might be nice for server, might be nice for programmer, but NO and with no I mean NONE company I have as customer or worked for has Linux. It is Windows everywhere. If it is my car mechanic, my doctor, the restaurant I go to, the lawyers office I need to visit, hundreds of construction companies I work with on a daily basis, NOBODY is using Linux....NOBODY...And this are the people who BUY software, not just use it for free.
And me as a programmer wants to get PAID every month, I am doing this to feed me and my dog.
Sure, I do like Richard Stallman and the idea that software could be FREE and I have also other funny Ideas how the world could be better and such.
But if you make you living as a programmer, and that of the company you work for, open source and giving things away for free simply does not pay your bills.
And like I mentioned before the pendulum seems to swing backwards, cross-platform simple ide seems NOT to work on windows anymore, all the goodies from David and Eric are Linux centered.
I even meet more old mainframes as Linux desktops.
Its like with them car magazines testing the tesla roadster or the next new Porsche whatever for $250.000++
Maybe I know the wrong people.
If the former, it's rich enough to support an IDE, file load/save, uploader, etc.; and the user interface could be browser-centric.
One of the tenets of cross-platform philosophy is source level compatibility rather than pre-compiled binaries. This doesn't lend itself to quick start very well at all. And of course is not what has been common on Windoze ecosystem.
This doesn't lend itself to quick start very well at all.
Maybe M$'s push with packaging Ubuntu-in-a-VM is a means to make this easier.
msrobot is viewing this from the Prop dev tools mainly I think. That's certainly how I took it.