P2 Subforum?

ctwardellctwardell Posts: 1,700
edited 2013-01-05 - 00:39:52 in Propeller 2
I wonder if we should see about adding a sub-forum to the Propeller Chip forum for "P2 Emulator" or something like that for all the threads related to the community activity that is revolving around the recently released FPGA configurations?

It would make it easier to locate the P2 related threads and keep them from overshadowing P1 activity.

C.W.
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  • Martin HodgeMartin Hodge Posts: 1,239
    edited 2012-12-09 - 07:35:01
    I second the motion.
  • SapiehaSapieha Posts: 2,964
    edited 2012-12-09 - 07:42:36
    Hi

    I don't think it is good idea.
    Not in that early stage we are now


    I second the motion.
  • ctwardellctwardell Posts: 1,700
    edited 2012-12-09 - 07:54:33
    Sapieha wrote: »
    Hi

    I don't think it is good idea.
    Not in that early stage we are now

    Can I ask why? It's just a way of keeping the P2 threads in a common place so we don't have to hunt for them.

    C.W.
  • SapiehaSapieha Posts: 2,964
    edited 2012-12-09 - 08:00:26
    Hi

    That can be good for us that know that.

    But not for NEW users that still don't know how this forum function


    ctwardell wrote: »
    Can I ask why? It's just a way of keeping the P2 threads in a common place so we don't have to hunt for them.

    C.W.
  • Bill HenningBill Henning Posts: 6,445
    edited 2012-12-09 - 08:19:07
    I agree with Sapieha, the more users exposed to the "Power of Prop2" the better...
  • Invent-O-DocInvent-O-Doc Posts: 768
    edited 2012-12-09 - 08:22:46
    I don't know about a subforum for P2 emulator. The post does address a good question. Should there be a separate forum for P2?
  • T ChapT Chap Posts: 4,016
    edited 2012-12-09 - 08:50:38
    A new user stumbling across the Prop1 and forum may very well be intimidated by the conversations over the P2. Those conversations are over most peoples heads.
  • potatoheadpotatohead Posts: 9,995
    edited 2012-12-09 - 10:03:38
    I agree.

    Having just got setup, it took considerable time to locate and update on all the current discussion. Now I've got several bookmarks... There is still a considerable time before we get real chips. The discussion will grow considerably before then. Messy.
  • Roy ElthamRoy Eltham Posts: 2,788
    edited 2012-12-09 - 12:12:33
    I think a Prop2 subforum would be dandy! I think in time it will be required, so why not start now? I don't agree with the arguments against it expressed in this thread so far...
  • Peter JakackiPeter Jakacki Posts: 8,980
    edited 2012-12-09 - 15:35:05
    Then when P2 becomes the mainstream do we swap the forums so that P1 is the sub-forum? P1 is six years old now and will have to make way for P2 as the updated Propeller chip. That's progressive, not intimidating. P1's been banged about a lot from trying to do everything which it can't but it will always have its place alongside P2 as a team. But P2 as the new flagship should never be left lurking in the shadows surely, that ain't right.
  • kwinnkwinn Posts: 8,509
    edited 2012-12-09 - 15:49:47
    Why not add a Propeller II forum rather than a sub forum? Perhaps even move or copy the recent P2 posts to that forum so all the info is easier to find.
  • cgraceycgracey Posts: 12,609
    edited 2012-12-09 - 15:54:17
    kwinn wrote: »
    Why not add a Propeller II forum rather than a sub forum? Perhaps even move or copy the recent P2 posts to that forum so all the info is easier to find.

    This sounds like what needs to be done.
  • Peter JakackiPeter Jakacki Posts: 8,980
    edited 2012-12-09 - 16:06:38
    cgracey wrote: »
    This sounds like what needs to be done.

    That was my thinking too, but I didn't want to preempt, it is still too early and there aren't that many P2 threads, are there really? The trouble with moving it too early is that a chasm forms between the P1s and the P2s if you like and to cross later is very difficult. This is the "Propeller" forum so let's leave it like that at the moment to help Prop members become familiar with the P2 as the features are discussed even for the first time so that they too are on the ground floor and in on everything that is discussed.
  • Bill HenningBill Henning Posts: 6,445
    edited 2012-12-09 - 16:16:43
    A Propeller 2 forum makes more sense to me as well (than a sub-forum) - especially once there are enough P2 threads.
  • potatoheadpotatohead Posts: 9,995
    edited 2012-12-09 - 16:17:52
    I'm OK with either one, and I like the P2 forum idea the best because it can just carry forward. Having them mixed isn't a good idea. That may well change over time, but right now it's not optimal.
  • Martin HodgeMartin Hodge Posts: 1,239
    edited 2012-12-09 - 16:28:08
    Ah I missed the sub part. A separate forum is what I was agreeing to. BTW, is it officially " propeller 2" Now? Is the beanie logo going to be on the package?
  • ctwardellctwardell Posts: 1,700
    edited 2012-12-10 - 04:37:13
    A seperate P2 forum would be good if Parallax doesn't consider it to be too early for that.

    C.W.
  • Oldbitcollector (Jeff)Oldbitcollector (Jeff) Posts: 8,090
    edited 2012-12-10 - 08:29:39
    A separate section alongside the existing Propeller forum would make sense. There is still alot of stuff I haven't done with Propeller 1 that I wouldn't like to see trod under by Prop2 conversation. The "churn" is already pretty high.

    Jeff
  • davejamesdavejames Posts: 3,978
    edited 2012-12-10 - 08:39:26
    As a Parallax user that has (basically) no clue about things Propeller, I'd rather see a separate forum for the P2. It would keep the differences between the P1 & P2 from mixing, when I decide to go over to the "dark side" that is. :cool:
  • Roy ElthamRoy Eltham Posts: 2,788
    edited 2012-12-10 - 09:59:29
    Yeah, I meant to be in support of a separate forum for P2, not a sub forum thingy like the PropGCC things. I would actually prefer the PropGCC ones be seperate forums too. In fact, I would make a new section for all the Prop/Prop2 forums and have them all be just forums instead of sub forums. I think the sections thing is a better organization format for forums than the sub forum thing, which has issues in the software (like marking read doesn't actually update properly without a reload).

    Roy
  • Peter JakackiPeter Jakacki Posts: 8,980
    edited 2012-12-10 - 18:20:53
    Be careful what you wish for guys, because if you succeed in clearing this patch of turf then the P1 forum may suffer quite a brain drain. All the active P2 people are also very helpful P1 people. Don't be hasty, all in due time.
  • potatoheadpotatohead Posts: 9,995
    edited 2012-12-10 - 20:57:58
    Why would the P1 forum change? I don't know about you guys, but I'll visit, hit the "what's new?" button, and then go from there. A topic of interest in the P1 forum would still be a topic of interest. I personally am still working on P1 stuff and would visit normally.

    Really, this is just a forum, and the P1 section is one of many partitions.

    IMHO, my reasons for supporting another forum partition for P2 are:

    1. Focusing the info in one place for easy updates, knowing what I've seen, etc...

    2. Reduce potential confusion in P1 forum.

    3. It has turned out that P2 activities are testing, as we learned today with RDQUAD. IMHO, that's better off partitioned as other test efforts are currently.
  • Bill HenningBill Henning Posts: 6,445
    edited 2012-12-11 - 09:38:29
    I'd still visit the P1 forum - P1 has a lot going for it, and I intend to keep using it as well as the P2

    After thinking about it, I really like the separate P1 / P2 forum idea as it will reduce the "clutter" in both
    Be careful what you wish for guys, because if you succeed in clearing this patch of turf then the P1 forum may suffer quite a brain drain. All the active P2 people are also very helpful P1 people. Don't be hasty, all in due time.
  • ctwardellctwardell Posts: 1,700
    edited 2013-01-04 - 05:25:30
    Has anyone at Parallax considered the seperate P2 forum, or at least a P2 subforum in the main Propeller forum?

    We have mulltiple P2 threads now and it would be nice to keep them together, it would also make it easier for Chip to see questions.

    C.W.
  • Oldbitcollector (Jeff)Oldbitcollector (Jeff) Posts: 8,090
    edited 2013-01-04 - 08:22:33
    Yes, please do this..

    Interesting posts both directions are getting buried beneath each other.

    Jeff
  • Ken GraceyKen Gracey Posts: 6,605
    edited 2013-01-04 - 10:56:06
    Yes, we're going to do this. It'll be a main forum called "Propeller 2".

    I've started the process this morning. After the forum is created our moderators will be asked to relocate a number of P2 threads.
  • kwinnkwinn Posts: 8,509
    edited 2013-01-04 - 10:58:22
    Lets add a Propeller II forum rather than a sub forum, and move or copy the recent P2 posts to that forum so all the info is easier to find.

    Since the P2 will eventually have to have it's own forum we might as well do it now to save work later.
  • kwinnkwinn Posts: 8,509
    edited 2013-01-04 - 10:59:14
    Thanks Ken.
  • Roy ElthamRoy Eltham Posts: 2,788
    edited 2013-01-04 - 11:54:37
    Yes! Ken rocks!
  • ctwardellctwardell Posts: 1,700
    edited 2013-01-04 - 12:02:16
    Thanks Ken.
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