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John Abshier
10-28-2006, 09:26 AM
The Parallax Propeller web page has a link to an English firm selling a Propeller module with built-in USB to serial.ˇ Price is about $75 + shipping.ˇ Not sure if that includes VAT.

ALIBE
10-28-2006, 09:29 AM
related thread is here (http://forums.parallax.com/showthread.php?p=609602)
http://forums.parallax.com/showthread.php?p=609602 (http://forums.parallax.com/showthread.php?p=609602)

I'm not sure if Parallax has made a formal release announcement here in the US


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ALIBE
10-28-2006, 09:44 AM
BTW, can you post the link to this?

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Paul Baker
10-28-2006, 09:50 AM
It's in the newly created Third-Party Propeller Tools (http://www.parallax.com/propeller/tools.asp)ˇPropeller Additional Links area.

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Paul Baker (mailto:pbaker@parallax.com)
Propeller Applications Engineer
[/url][url=http://www.parallax.com] (http://www.parallax.com)
Parallax, Inc. (http://www.parallax.com)

ALIBE
10-28-2006, 09:55 AM
she's a beauty!ˇ NOW - a big question, when can we mortals in the US get our hands on this :)

http://apple.clickandbuild.com/cnb/shop/ftdichip?imageID=210&op=imgLib-viewImage

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Eric R
10-28-2006, 10:08 AM
Looks like you can get 'em in Texas also. http://www.dlpdesign.com/

ALIBE
10-28-2006, 10:15 AM
Paul,
is this prod the same as what came up in this thread
http://forums.parallax.com/showthread.php?p=609602

I just realized that this one is not "branded" as "from" Parallax but, from DLP.

thanks in advance



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Paul Baker
10-28-2006, 10:18 AM
No, they are different products.

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Paul Baker (mailto:pbaker@parallax.com)
Propeller Applications Engineer
[/url][url=http://www.parallax.com] (http://www.parallax.com)
Parallax, Inc. (http://www.parallax.com)

ALIBE
10-28-2006, 10:20 AM
ok - thanks for clarifying. I want to wait a bit longer - hope not too long

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Eric R
10-28-2006, 10:22 AM
ALIBE, good eye!

Paul, I will wait for the official Parallax product. Any idea when we might be able to expect it?

Paul Baker
10-28-2006, 12:04 PM
I just found out what the target date is, but Im going to decline providing it. This is our general policy since we've been burnt many times in the past by exhuberantly providing a target date, only to anger people when we can't deliver. I will say that we are waiting on the delivery of the stock and final processing, so it should be weeks not months.

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Paul Baker (mailto:pbaker@parallax.com)
Propeller Applications Engineer
[/url][url=http://www.parallax.com] (http://www.parallax.com)
Parallax, Inc. (http://www.parallax.com)

John Culver
10-28-2006, 01:41 PM
The parallax description appears under 'third-party tools' to have aˇsignificant error - it describes the module as being on a 0.6" pitch, but the DLP-PROP is documented to be on a 0.9" pitch (and it looks like this as well). At 0.6" I would have felt a lot more tempted to use it.

It's also interesting that they use a 6MHz crystal, expecting clocking to 96MHz.

Forrest
10-28-2006, 03:13 PM
Here's the description of the DLP-PROP from DLP's main web page www.dlpdesign.com/ (http://www.dlpdesign.com/):

October 2006: DLP Design is pleased to announce the new DLP-PROP module. It uses the new Propeller™ chip from Parallax, Inc., 4th-generation silicon from FTDI, and is lead free. The DLP-PROP has an on-board 3.3V regulator, standard 40-pin, 0.6 inch footprint, EEPROM for program storage, and is compatible with the new Spin™ development environment from Parallax.

Yet the attached datasheet says it's 0.9 inches wide. Looks like you'll need to ask DLP which one is correct

Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi)
10-28-2006, 10:56 PM
Both could be true. The board itself looks like it's about 0.9" wide. You can't tell where the pins are since they're surface-mounted on the bottom; but they could easily be on 0.6" centers, leaving a 0.15" overhand on each side.

-Phil

Don @ DLP
10-29-2006, 05:03 AM
The PCB is 0.9 inches wide and the header pins are 0.6 inches wide such that they will fit perfectly into a standard 40-pin DIP socket.ˇ This module will be available from Mouser ELectronics any day now.ˇ They have already received the inventoryˇand have it on their website:ˇ

http://www.mouser.com/search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=DLP-PROPvirtualkey62620000virtualkey626-DLP-PROP

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Don @ DLP
10-29-2006, 05:28 AM
Also, the DLP-PROP is currently available from the FTDI On-line Store:
http://apple.clickandbuild.com/cnb/shop/ftdichip?op=catalogue-products-null&prodCategoryID=59&title=DLP-PROP

To change the currency from Pounds to US Dollars (or Euros) just click on "Products" in the upper-left corner. Once the correct currency is set, go back into "DIP Modules". Orders that ship to US customers will ship from their office in Hillsboro, Oregon.

Don

wastehl
10-29-2006, 06:31 AM
FYI I ordered the DLP-PROP from Mouser for testing, it is listed as back-ordered, costs $69.75 plus shipping and taxes, Don Powrie from DLP advises via email that they should ship shortly from Mouser.

Bill