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codeviper
04-06-2012, 02:54 AM
i have got a lot of "i think you can't do this and here is why................"
type of replies.
this sucks, it is making me defensive and especially the ones who assume a lot.
i did not put AC on my Prop nor did i put 9VDC directly to it, nor a lot of other things that poster seem to believe i did.
this is rotton really i was looking forward to posting here now i feel so soured by this i think im sick.
like my SPI driver I posted CODE as requested and i did not get any help after i jumped through hoops of assumptions.
like i was a cheater or i was stupid ect..............
yet a person later came in posted they were in a class how do they do ________ ( i cant remember exactly what) and the same person who said i was lazy and wanting a free ride posted actual code to help.
this hurt, i said some thing like hey i think this is a good ideal anyone wanna help? and got toasted.
mean-while someone else said hey i am in school help me cheat, they got "ooh, here let me help you....."
it is funny as i have seen in a local newspaper a kid who made a BOEbot kit and got a blue ribbon frome the demo-code when i was a kid i used my apple2e to run a robot and wrote the code for it in 6502 machine code and got a honorable mention.
why is it when some one says want to help me do this or by doing this they get the shakedown.
but if i came in under a new name and posted my exact same posts in the other way I would get help, i guess should i do that?
I got pigeon-holed here I suppose. this sucks

Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi)
04-06-2012, 04:19 AM
codeviper,

It's the nature of this forum that, when people offer help, they want to make sure all the i's are dotted and the t's crossed. That entails a lot of back and forth to understand a problem before any actual help can be forthcoming.It's all too easy to mistake this for criticism. For example, you say above, that a "poster" seems to think you applied AC to your Propeller. I'm familiar with that thread and contributed to it. I might even be that "poster." But, since you had taken the trouble to build a bridge rectifier for your AC adapter, it was natural to assume that you might want to supply your board with AC (and there's not anything wrong with that). I simply wanted to make sure that you understood the other consequences of it, should you go the AC route.

There is some advice I can offer you, but you probably don't want to hear it. A lot of positive first impressions are easily dashed by the use of poor grammar, spelling, and punctuation. Taking the time to capitalize sentences, to punctuate them correctly, and generally to put together coherent paragraphs goes a long way towards garnering the respect of your fellow forumistas and their willingness to help. It demonstrates that you are willing to make an effort to communicate effectively, without making us read between the lines or guessing at what you're trying to say. Not that we don't all make grammatical mistakes from time to time. But, frankly, forging through one of your posts can be a real slog, and not everyone is willing to go to the trouble. If you think you've been pigeon-holed (and I don't really believe that's the case), a simple change to your writing style could go a long way toward rehabilitating your forum karma. :)

-Phil

codeviper
04-06-2012, 05:37 PM
yet i stated that i used it so i did not have to worry about the polarity of the adapter.
I learned this trick from a product i bought that said it needed a certain voltage and amperage but did not matter on the polarity due to the use of a rectifier.
no one read that.
does it not seem an issue to you that the assumption is lazy or dumb due to grammar and spelling?
seems slightly odd to me that otherwise intelligent adults will ignore the numerous reasons why spelling and grammar might be difficult for a poster.
as far as any of you know English could be my second language, i could have a mental disability, or any number of other issues.
and when i explain nope that's not what i did, no one has anything to say.
yes, of course I don't want to to hear the thing about grammar and spelling, as I am certain that it is not that severe as i have already asked two English teachers to reveiw my post and both say my posts are understandable. they wont get an A or B or C in an essay like review, but they are understandable.
people expend massive effort being buzz-kills and naysayers and the fact that it seems that my grammar is an excuse says that it is always in them they just want an excuse to release their abusive tendencies.
in conclusion, unknowing of the individuals problems that my lead to said language issues it is unfair and discrimatory to assume they are dumb or lazy.

Phil Pilgrim (PhiPi)
04-06-2012, 06:43 PM
I think you will find the forumistas very forgiving of grammar and spelling issues if it's clear that English is not your first language or that a disability of some sort prevents better writing. If that's the case with you, then perhaps I was too quick to judge. But my point was, and continues to be, if you are capable of better writing, make the effort in the forum -- assuming that your objective is to attract as much positive attention and assistance as possible. OTOH, if your attitude is, "I'm not going to make the effort, and people should just deal with it," you'll find that people deal with it by ignoring your posts or, worse, being critical of the substance due to the style. You may not think that's fair, but that's life.

-Phil

codeviper
04-06-2012, 08:44 PM
i will leave it at this, i do my best to communicate, I just don't feel grammar is to massive a thing to cause judgement of intelligence. sometimes it is just more difficult then other for me.
but i do try my hardest, to communicate well.