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Jasper_M
01-13-2008, 08:38 PM
Sometimes when I start PropTool (either 1.0.5.5 or 1.0.5.8), it hangs, showing only the splashscreen. It's always waiting for some application, like Winamp or explorer.exe. OS is Windows Vista, running on a dual-processor system. Killing the app it's waiting for solves the problem.

Here are the error details.

Description:
A problem caused this program to stop interacting with Windows.

Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: AppHangXProcB1
Application Name: Propeller.exe
Application Version: 1.0.5.5
Application Timestamp: 2a425e19
Hang Signature: 2730
Hang Type: 32
Waiting on Application Name: Kizukizukizu.exe
Waiting on Application Version: 1.0.0.0
OS Version: 6.0.6000.2.0.0.256.1
Locale ID: 1035
Additional Hang Signature 1: 886e84f07005c3fdebdf4ed1ad03905b
Additional Hang Signature 2: 167d
Additional Hang Signature 3: 79fa32ac769cb51c253a958ce938c725
Additional Hang Signature 4: 2730
Additional Hang Signature 5: 886e84f07005c3fdebdf4ed1ad03905b
Additional Hang Signature 6: 167d
Additional Hang Signature 7: 79fa32ac769cb51c253a958ce938c725

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Kizukizukizu is a program I wrote in .NET, it is in Thread.Sleep state, and shouldn't have any resources allocated. It gets pictures of kittens from ICANHASCHEEZBURGER and lays them on my desktop wallpaper, only resources it use are GDI+ resources, and one file resource, the wallpaper in my pictures (+ the resources RSS.NET uses). So what's the PropTool waiting for?

wastehl
01-14-2008, 01:53 AM
It's waiting for you to switch over to Mac OS-X...

Sorry, I couldn't resist...

We have had some problems with Vista and USB drivers, even with HP and Epson printers. We had to roll back to XP. A lot of our lab instrument software suffers
similar problems with Vista.

Regards, Bill

crgwbr
01-14-2008, 02:04 AM
I've had the same stuff happen on my Vista install. I think a lot of things like this could be solved if parallax would release the necessary source code (SPIN Loader, etc); I'm sure Prop users would write an Open source version of the software (with Linux support!) the wouldn't suffer from these issues. Then we could all avoid Vista. Not to hijack your thread, but if Parallax would consider this as an option, I'd like to offer my Python programming skills to help with the open source version.

regards,
Craig

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My system: 1.6 GHz AMD Turion64 X2, 4GB DDR2, 256MB ATI Radeon Graphics card, 15.4" Widescreen HD Screen

I have a duel boot of Ubuntu Linux and Windows Vista. Vista, because it came with the PC, Ubuntu because I like software that works.

"Failure is not an option -- it comes bundled with Windows."

Use The Best...
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Rayman
01-14-2008, 04:57 AM
My guess is that the Prop tool is trying to scan your hard drives before starting and getting stuck on one... I have trouble with an empty flash card reader... The tool gives many error messages because it can't read the non-existent drive...

Sapieha
01-14-2008, 05:10 AM
Hi Rayman.

On my computer Prop Tool say ... It canīt write on one USB flash HD.

My cuestion is ... What Prop Tool have to do on start ?

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Sapieha

OzStamp
01-14-2008, 05:32 AM
Hi
I still run windows 2000 and have the flash card "Drive empty" error
Rayman helped me with that awhile ago.

So it is not just a Vista or XP problem ( we use windows 2000)
XP and Vista are way to bloated... yuk...

cheers ron mel oz

Mike Green
01-14-2008, 05:34 AM
There is already a "released" Propeller downloader written in Python and another written in Spin so one Propeller can download to another. Have a look at Graham Stabler's "sticky" good links thread.

Jasper_M
01-14-2008, 05:41 AM
Mike Green said...
There is already a "released" Propeller downloader written in Python and another written in Spin so one Propeller can download to another. Have a look at Graham Stabler's "sticky" good links thread.

I've also made a propeller loader/programmer in C#, based on the delphi one and released it here: http://forums.parallax.com/showthread.php?p=628778

Sapieha
01-14-2008, 05:58 AM
Hi Mike.

Loader is Ok.

But stil it is cuestion ..... What Prop Tool have to do on write protect on my Flash HD stick if I protect it on write.
It only commes on start Prop Tool

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Nothing is impossible, there are only different degrees of difficulty.

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crgwbr
01-14-2008, 09:58 AM
Mike Green said...
There is already a "released" Propeller downloader written in Python and another written in Spin so one Propeller can download to another. Have a look at Graham Stabler's "sticky" good links thread.


Don't those loaders expect a pre-tokenized file? I guess what I was taking about is the SPIN tokenizer.

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My system: 1.6 GHz AMD Turion64 X2, 4GB DDR2, 256MB ATI Radeon Graphics card, 15.4" Widescreen HD Screen

I have a duel boot of Ubuntu Linux and Windows Vista. Vista, because it came with the PC, Ubuntu because I like software that works.

"Failure is not an option -- it comes bundled with Windows."

Use The Best...
Linux for Servers
Mac for Graphics
Palm for Mobility
Windows for Solitaire